Nei, de neste klokkene blir 500. jeg har bestillt de der logitech, så de venter på meg hjemme, også holder jeg på å bestille noe snacks fra Frankrike omdagen.. Til jul skal far ha seg en litt bedre Amp. Med RØR, tror min kjærlighet til rør aldri vil svinne hen..
Det forklarer jo en hel del.
Litt sitater funnet i farta...
Old and New Hd650's
- DarKu
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Older version is more laid back with bigger bass, and a little veiled with less details, newer one has a bit lesser bass but overall is a more neutral can, with better midrange and hights, also i found it to have better detail and no veil at all.
Here are some photos, the new one has white dampening material/driver.
I like newer version
HD650 - New Version?
- 3X0
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Older version has silk dampening over the drivers, with a reputation of being very warm and rather bassy. This version is afflicted by the infamous "veil."
The newer version uses metal mesh for dampening and sounds much less warm and a little less bassy, with more tonal balance overall. Not as veiled by default, and consequently is less chain-picky.
Asr sin mening etter CanJam 2012:...Siden det kommer et par to- og tresidere i WATT om både TH-900 og AH-D7100, så må jeg vente til de er publisert før jeg kan komme med utdypende informasjon her. Jeg ber om unnskyldning om jeg teaser for mye med å nevne det i det hele tatt.
Teaser: Gode hodetelefoner, men mer forskjellige enn jeg hadde trodd på forhånd. Det jeg dog kan si er at Fostex kan sakene sine, virkelig....
Interessant! Jeg merker meg at jeg ikke er så veldig langt unna konklusjonen på TH-900Asr sin mening etter CanJam 2012:...Siden det kommer et par to- og tresidere i WATT om både TH-900 og AH-D7100, så må jeg vente til de er publisert før jeg kan komme med utdypende informasjon her. Jeg ber om unnskyldning om jeg teaser for mye med å nevne det i det hele tatt.
Teaser: Gode hodetelefoner, men mer forskjellige enn jeg hadde trodd på forhånd. Det jeg dog kan si er at Fostex kan sakene sine, virkelig....
Fostex TH900: I listened to Moon Audio's pair of these, from the same Stello CDT100 & Fostex HP-A8 setup as the M-100, so I actually went back and forth between the TH900 and M-100 quite a few times on various CD tracks.
Although the M-100 became my new favorite budget closed headphone, I have to hand out an even bigger award to the TH900, because these blew my mind!
I refused to believe the hype train on these headphones at first, but now I'm a convert, because they were some of the best dynamic headphones that I've ever heard, seriously. And the fact that they're closed is just icing on the cake, because most of the dynamic flagships are open designs. Though they didn't isolate that much, they didn't seem to leak much either, which was nice.
How to describe the sound of the TH900? I'd call it a close dynamic equivalent of the Stax SR-007A (OII MKI). I swore it got closer to the OII MKI than any other headphone that I've heard, and there were times it sounded spookily like the OII. Very natural-sounding, very balanced, and very "smooth", with very nice deep bass, enough that it actually satisfied for electronica. They did extremely well with just about every genre I threw at them from metal to jazz, classical to electronica, bluegrass to rock - so well that I couldn't believe it. I'm especially critical with classical music, but these handled the sound of a violin nearly perfectly, almost as well as the OII! They were literally like a dynamic OII to me - with nearly the same level of finesse for classical & jazz, yet perfectly capable of rocking out a bit to death and power metal (In Flames & Helloween).
The TH900 is my new favorite pair of high-end closed headphones! I'm now compelled to buy one for myself as part of my dynamic system, and I think if I'd never heard the OII/BHSE, it could easily be my final system too! In fact, one need not bother with a high-end electrostatic system with the TH900 - it's really almost as good, for less! What's not to like? And they were extremely comfortable to wear too, with very supple earpads. It was like wearing [censored] on my ears!
Denon AH-D7100: Moon Audio had these headphones at their table too, so I checked them out on the Stello/Fostex gear. Let's just say that these were vastly underwhelming after the TH900, and if anyone asked me to put a price on them based on the sound, I'd say $500 tops! The $1.2K MSRP is outrageous for something that was so tonally weird, it actually reminded me of Audio-Technica woodies. The bass was also extremely muddy & uncontrolled - my standard battery of electronica overloaded its bass response so much, it was ludicrous. It also enhanced nasal/reedy characteristics, and the treble - well, it sucked. It was rolled off way too much. I can't believe Denon thinks a $1.2K headphone can get away with this kind of sound, it was that pathetic.
If we ignore the price, I'd put the D7100 in my below-average ranking, which usually includes <$300 headphones! Heck, my average ranking includes the K70x and HD600/HD650, which I think are better-sounding!
And my criticisms don't end with the sound. This headphone had next to no swivel either, so it fit very loosely.
HeadphoneAddict:
Speaking of Fostex TH-900 - Last year after RMAF I griped about the prototype TH-900, saying that they had a sucked out midrange, sloppy bass, and tizzy treble, to the point where I told the Fostex people that I preferred the T50RP for those particular reasons. Well, they've been fixed. I actually don't have much to complain about the sound now. Well, okay maybe the treble is still slightly aggressive, but not in a fatiguing way. Bass control was much better with better speed and detail in the lows, and the mids were warmer and fuller than before. Transparency was excellent now, using the April Music DAC/amp combo (wish I could recall the name, because that's another standout item I heard). My second gripe is that closed headphones should isolate more of the outside noises, but even my LA7000 with thick wood cups don't isolate any better than these. Overall the sound is pretty competitive with what I recall hearing from my LA7000 closed phones. I need to hear the new Sony MDR1 that Jude has, and it would be neat to compare these. I'm probably not in the market for these, due to the price and all the high-end phones I already have.
Ahzari:
I still get impressed every time I put the TH900s on - the excitement does fade a bit as I listen to music for a while. They have this great instant gratification that fades into a stable impressiveness over the time spent in each session. But if you take a break for an hour or two and come back you'll be impressed all over again - dont know if that makes sense but thats how I feel with the TH900s (still very happy with the purchase).
De er strålende!
Selvsagt er jeg diametralt uenig i det der,
men siden det er akkurat det Grado-fanboys pleier å si, er det kanskje en idé å prøve et sett Grado? Grado-er er veldig frampå og "morsomme". Veldig rock'n'roll!
Vi snakker nyanser her. De nye driverne er litt mer nøytrale i bassen og mer detaljerte/friske i toppen. De gamle har litt varmere lyd. Jeg liker (og har) de gamle absolutt best.
QC i etterkant er jo som kjent langt mer fornuftig enn i forkant. Ser frem til å lese omtalen din.Interessant! Jeg merker meg at jeg ikke er så veldig langt unna konklusjonen på TH-900
Kanskje den vipper meg i favør "buy one".
Fostex TH-900 er langt utenfor trådens emne, uansett hvor god den enn måtte være.
Dette er også én av mine kombinasjonsmuligheter, som til tider benyttes. Aune X1 DAC klarer ikke helt å dra ut "maxpotensialet" i HD650, men de balanserer tonalt rimelig bra med hverandre - og er en vel-lydende kombinasjon til en overkommelig pris for de fleste.
