Politikk, religion og samfunn President Donald J. Trump - Quo vadis? (Del 2)

[otare]

Mer "Only in America":

"Former Representative Ron Paul of Texas, speaking on his Ron Paul Liberty Report program on Thursday, called for President Donald Trump to fire Dr. Anthony Fauci as director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

Paul, a physician himself, was responding to Fauci’s lowering of his estimates of coonavirus deaths in the United States down from his previous estimates of between 100,000 and 200,000 to 60,000. But Fauci did not explain how he arrived at the estimate of 60,000.

Paul said, “He should be fired, but if you don’t do it in the literal sense, the people have to fire him. They have to fire him by saying he’s a fraud.”

The main concern of Paul is that the virus was being used by the government to infringe on the liberties of Americans. “The plan that they [government officials] have is when things are getting back to normal, people can return to work, and they do things, and go to the golf course if they get a stamp of approval. Your liberties are there if you get a proper stamp from the government.”

“It’s an excuse to have total control over the people,” Paul added."

Fra Newamerican.com . Regner med at det er en right-wing publikasjon, men dette er altså hva som rører seg i deler av befolkningen der borte.

 

[erato]

Paradoksalt. Kjør på frihetselskende amerikanere, så får nok Fauci rett.

 

[Hardingfele]

 

[Gjestemedlem]

Message of the Cross
Verse 21 beautifully summarizes what happened through the death of Christ when he was lifted up. Paul affirmed the perfect sinlessness of the Savior. Jesus is the only human who “did not know sin.” He never sinned, and both he and his closest followers, Peter and John, explicitly attested to this holiness (John 8:46; 1 Pet. 2:22; 1 John 3:5).

Yet God made him “to be sin.” Paul’s language is careful. He did not say Jesus became a sinner, which would be untrue. Rather, Jesus became the representative sin-bearer. He identified 100 percent with the sin of the world when he died on the cross (John 1:29). God treated Jesus as if he were sin itself.

When God made Jesus to be sin, it was “for us,” for our benefit. And the benefit is that we are joined to him in faith; we become “righteousness”—the opposite of sin. Again, Paul’s language is careful. He went further than saying, “We become righteous.” Rather, we become the very righteousness of God himself. Jesus, who was sinless, became sin for us so that we, who are sinful, might become righteousness when we are united to him.

Christ’s identification with sinners is the foundation for our mission.



What a good Christian was supposed to do was pray for God to work on Trump, who was after all pro-life, and pro-Israel, and pro-all the positions they felt a Christian nation should be taking. And if they were somehow wrong about Trump, said Misty, “in the end it doesn’t really matter.”

“A true Christian doesn’t have to worry about that,” said Brett, explaining what any good Southern Baptist heard at church every Sunday, which was that Jesus had died on the cross to wash away their sins, defeat death and provide them with eternal life in heaven.

https://www.charlottemagazine.com/the-south-trump-and-end-stage-protestantism/

There’s some sense to be made of Evangelicals’ allegiance to Trump, someone whose allegiance to no one but himself has been apparent for more than 40 years. But even the best explanations fall short of explaining the full phenomenon. The capitulation of Republican leaders to the president and his agenda, whether in the form of the Baptist Mitch McConnell or the Catholic Paul Ryan, can be excused as a cynical and pragmatic concession to power. But, Jarrell said, “with the standard people in the pews, man, I don’t have a clue, honestly.”

 

[Dr Dong]

mens trump kjører til banan, og biden for det meste er taus, så står warren på. hun applauderer ikke bare innsatsen, men handler!

essential workers som noe annet enn expendables.

https://twitter.com/SenWarren/status/1249690001618669569?s=20

 

[Asbjørn]

Apropos det første punktet: På en fabrikk i Sydstatene som jeg har vært innom noen ganger er reglene for arbeidstøy og PPE at den ansatte selv holder arbeidstøy. Ved ansettelse skal vedkommende også skaffe seg egnede vernesko. Hvis vedkommende består prøvetiden og blir fast ansatt vil bedriften refundere utlegget til vernesko, ellers ikke.

Apropos det tredje: På en annen fabrikk hang det et stort banner utenfor døren til HR-sjefen som forkynte "Proud to Be Union Free Since 1963". Med stjerner og striper og det hele på. Nedenfor hang et oppslag som forklarte hvilke ubehagelige konsekvenser det ville få for ansettelsesforholdet om noen så mye som forsøkte å dele ut materiell om fagforeninger på arbeidsplassen og/eller i arbeidstiden.

Apropos det fjerde: På førstnevnte fabrikk var regelen for lønn under sykefravær at den ansatte kunne søke om å få lønn under sykefravær fra den andre fraværsuken, men bare hvis fraværet skyldtes en ulykke på arbeidsplassen som den ansatte selv ikke var skyld i. Ellers ikke.

Hvis det er "normalen" man lever under kan jo et program som Warrens fremstå som ganske radikalt. I Skandinavia og Europa er derimot alle punktene på programmet en selvfølge. Det har jo "alltid" vært slik under vekslende regjeringer.

Andre steder, andre skikker, som det het i Asterix.

 

[rr30629]

Han har ordnet opp i oljeproduksjonen world wide. Og han takker de som var med slik at han kunne ordne opp.

 

[Hardingfele]

 

[Dr Dong]

det er ikke måte på hvor store summer som nå står tilgjengelig; men ikke alle skal få:

White House rejects bailout for U.S. Postal Service battered by coronavirus


Trump threatened to veto the $2 trillion Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act, or Cares Act, if the legislation contained any money directed to bail out the postal agency, according to a senior Trump administration official and a congressional official who, like others in this report, spoke on the condition of anonymity.
“We told them very clearly that the president was not going to sign the bill if [money for the Postal Service] was in it,” the Trump administration official said. “I don’t know if we used the v-bomb, but the president was not going to sign it, and we told them that.”

det er mange penger i omløp; kanaliseringen er ikke tilfeldig

veldig mange penger! mange mulige kanaler. kontroll, sa du?

Why We Desperately Need Oversight of the Coronavirus Stimulus Spending
Rigorous watchdogs can ensure that vast amounts of taxpayer money aren’t lost to fraud or handed out as political favors.

Who will conduct oversight of this staggering amount of taxpayer money? We need to ensure that this government aid is not being stolen, wasted or given to political cronies. And we need to make sure that the public is aware of how and to whom those trillions are distributed. In short, we need watchdogs. As it prepares for more relief in the wake of vast economic ruin caused by Covid-19, Congress has leverage — and must use it.

men det ser ikke bra ut…

 

[kasol]

A British doctor says: "In Britain, medicine is so advanced that we cut off a man's liver, put it in another man, and in 6 weeks, he is looking for a job."

The German doctor says: "That's nothing,

in Germany we took part of a brain, put it in another man, and in 4 weeks he is looking for a job."

The Russian doctor says: "Gentlemen, we took half a heart from a man, put it in another's chest, and in 2 weeks he is looking for a job."

The American doctor laughs: "You are all behind us. A few years ago, we took a man with no brain, no heart, and no liver and made him President.

Now, the whole country is looking for a job!"

 

[xerxes]

Ikke ny, men like vel:
“Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?”

Nate White, a witty writer from England wrote the perfect response.

“A few things spring to mind…

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.

For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.

So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.

I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.

But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

Trump is a troll.

And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.

And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.

Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.

Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.

And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.

Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.

He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.

He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.

And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.

That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.

There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.

So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think

‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’

is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:

Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.

You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.

After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form;

He is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit.

His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.

God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.

He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.

In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.

And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:

‘My God… what… have… I… created?

If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.”

 

[Dr Dong]

Bernie Sanders Endorses Joe Biden for President
The Vermont senator added the weight of his left-wing support to Mr. Biden’s candidacy in a step toward Democratic unity against President Trump.

Senator Bernie Sanders endorsed Joseph R. Biden Jr. as the Democratic nominee for president on Monday, adding the weight of his left-wing support to Mr. Biden’s candidacy and taking a major step toward bringing unity to the party’s effort to unseat President Trump in November.

In throwing his weight behind his former rival, Mr. Sanders is sending an unmistakable signal that his supporters — who are known for their intense loyalty — should do so as well, at a moment when Mr. Biden still faces deep skepticism from many younger progressives.

The two men appeared via live stream on split screens — each on each other’s live streams — talking to each other. “We need you in the White House,” Mr. Sanders said to Mr. Biden. “And I will do all that I can to make that happen.”

Mr. Biden said: “I’m going to need you. Not just to win the campaign, but to govern.”

Mr. Sanders, who dropped out of the presidential race last week, hinted his intentions in a Twitter post shortly before the appearance. Mr. Biden provided his own clue, saying he would be “joined by a special guest" for his scheduled live stream at 2 p.m.
The scene was a striking example of the ways the coronavirus has upended traditional campaigning. In normal times, both men likely would have appeared onstage together at a rally — or at least done so at an event with more pomp. Instead, both men appeared at their homes, as they have been doing for weeks as they communicate to voters mostly via live streamed events.

At times almost jovial, the two men went back and forth on issues, with Mr. Biden asking Mr. Sanders if he had any questions for him, and Mr. Sanders responding by asking Mr. Biden if he supported policies that the Vermont Senator has championed for years, including a $15 minimum wage and tuition-free public college.

The two men said they would form “task forces” on issues including the economy, education, immigration, health care, criminal justice and climate change.

The scene, which unfolded less than a week after Mr. Sanders ended his own campaign, was a sharp departure from the drawn-out, often-acrimonious process of reconciliation between Mr. Sanders and Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential race, and the joint appearance appeared poised to further ease Democratic fears of a divided party headed into a general election against Mr. Trump.

The event followed weeks of discussion between the Biden and Sanders camps over how the two men could find common ground on Mr. Sanders’s key policy priorities. A day after Mr. Sanders left the presidential race, Mr. Biden announced that he was embracing several new, more progressive positions on matters including health care and education, in an explicit overture to Mr. Sanders’s base.
This is a developing story and will be updated.

 

[Dr Dong]

et forsøk på en oversikt over «korrupsjon» i den forente bananrepublikk.

Mapping Corruption:
The Interactive Exhibit

The Trump administration has brought its brand of corruption and self-dealing to every agency in the federal government, and it’s hard for anyone to keep on top of it all. We’ve mapped it out for you. Click on any agency building below, and unlock an extensive dossier of the activities happening inside.

trump må kunne sies å være en mann med usedvanlig handlekraft og gjennomføringsevne når det gjelder slikt.

 

[defacto]

et forsøk på en oversikt over «korrupsjon» i den forente bananrepublikk.

Mapping Corruption:
The Interactive Exhibit

The Trump administration has brought its brand of corruption and self-dealing to every agency in the federal government, and it’s hard for anyone to keep on top of it all. We’ve mapped it out for you. Click on any agency building below, and unlock an extensive dossier of the activities happening inside.

trump må kunne sies å være en mann med usedvanlig handlekraft og gjennomføringsevne når det gjelder slikt.

Han skal jo leve av noe etter presidentskapet.

 

[Dr Dong]

litt samtidshistorie!

jazz- og pratepresidenten (aka obama) hadde en gressrotbevegelse nesten uten sidestykke i nyere tid. uten denne ville han neppe kunne parkert fru clinton, og det er vanskelig å tenke valgseieren uten denne bevegelsen. i stedet for å videreføre denne bevegelsen etter valget, men uavhengig av det demokratiske partiapparatet, legges det hele ned; eller som det så fint heter, gjøres det til et underbruk av partiet. det tok livet av hele bevegelsen. i stedet var det gop som så potensialet i gressrota…

He built a grassroots machine of two million supporters eager to fight for change. Then he let it die. This is the untold story of Obama’s biggest mistake—and how it paved the way for Trump.
By MICAH L. SIFRY
February 9, 2017

god lese!

(obamas gressrotbevegelse var populisme på sitt beste.)

 

[Gjestemedlem]

Bernie Sanders Endorses Joe Biden for President
The Vermont senator added the weight of his left-wing support to Mr. Biden’s candidacy in a step toward Democratic unity against President Trump.

Senator Bernie Sanders endorsed Joseph R. Biden Jr. as the Democratic nominee for president on Monday, adding the weight of his left-wing support to Mr. Biden’s candidacy and taking a major step toward bringing unity to the party’s effort to unseat President Trump in November.

In throwing his weight behind his former rival, Mr. Sanders is sending an unmistakable signal that his supporters — who are known for their intense loyalty — should do so as well, at a moment when Mr. Biden still faces deep skepticism from many younger progressives.

The two men appeared via live stream on split screens — each on each other’s live streams — talking to each other. “We need you in the White House,” Mr. Sanders said to Mr. Biden. “And I will do all that I can to make that happen.”

Mr. Biden said: “I’m going to need you. Not just to win the campaign, but to govern.”

Mr. Sanders, who dropped out of the presidential race last week, hinted his intentions in a Twitter post shortly before the appearance. Mr. Biden provided his own clue, saying he would be “joined by a special guest" for his scheduled live stream at 2 p.m.
The scene was a striking example of the ways the coronavirus has upended traditional campaigning. In normal times, both men likely would have appeared onstage together at a rally — or at least done so at an event with more pomp. Instead, both men appeared at their homes, as they have been doing for weeks as they communicate to voters mostly via live streamed events.

At times almost jovial, the two men went back and forth on issues, with Mr. Biden asking Mr. Sanders if he had any questions for him, and Mr. Sanders responding by asking Mr. Biden if he supported policies that the Vermont Senator has championed for years, including a $15 minimum wage and tuition-free public college.

The two men said they would form “task forces” on issues including the economy, education, immigration, health care, criminal justice and climate change.

The scene, which unfolded less than a week after Mr. Sanders ended his own campaign, was a sharp departure from the drawn-out, often-acrimonious process of reconciliation between Mr. Sanders and Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential race, and the joint appearance appeared poised to further ease Democratic fears of a divided party headed into a general election against Mr. Trump.

The event followed weeks of discussion between the Biden and Sanders camps over how the two men could find common ground on Mr. Sanders’s key policy priorities. A day after Mr. Sanders left the presidential race, Mr. Biden announced that he was embracing several new, more progressive positions on matters including health care and education, in an explicit overture to Mr. Sanders’s base.
This is a developing story and will be updated.

This is gold. !!

 

[Hardingfele]

Hakke-sprute-sprø. Men jeg tror Mytteriet på Caine er en bedre referanse.



Her er Humphrey Bogart i rollen -- og sammenbruddet:

 

[Gjestemedlem]

Hakke-sprute-sprø. Men jeg tror Mytteriet på Caine er en bedre referanse.

Vis vedlegget 580237

.. spot a fake. Ok..

..

 

[Asbjørn]

Jeg måtte sjekke. Det er dessverre ikke noe fake i tweeten. Dette er hva USAs president rister ut av seg i dag.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump


Valgfusket han bekymrer seg for i all caps eksisterer mest i hans egen fantasi. Han har tydeligvis allerede begynt å legge ut røykteppe for å bortforklare hvorfor han taper valget til høsten. På grunn av valgfusk, selvsagt.

 

[Gjestemedlem]

Jeg måtte sjekke. Det er dessverre ikke noe fake i tweeten. Dette er hva USAs president rister ut av seg i dag.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump
Vis vedlegget 580241

Valgfusket han bekymrer seg for i all caps eksisterer mest i hans egen fantasi. Han har tydeligvis allerede begynt å legge ut røykteppe for å bortforklare hvorfor han taper valget til høsten. På grunn av valgfusk, selvsagt.

Du har nok rett, men jeg hører ikke Trumps stemme her. Det er noen andre som snakker!. Trump formulerer seg ikke slik. Det er noen andre her. Det er noe som ikke stemmer.

Jeg vet han er flink til å skifte retning men, det er noe mer her,

..

eller .. en annen vinkel:

Mytteriet på Bounty..

 

[Asbjørn]

Vel, du finner kanskje en forklaring her:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-about-trumps-despotic-claim-total-authority/

President Trump’s wild gyrations and reversals on coronavirus become a lot more intelligible when you realize he is motivated at bottom by a simple, unchanging imperative: Trump wants to be perceived as taking charge of the situation, without being held accountable for the horrible consequences of the bad decisions he has made along the way.

Now that Trump has declared “total” authority to reopen the American economy, insisting he “calls the shots” and governors do not, many commentators are pointing to an apparent contradiction.

How can Trump make this claim after spending weeks insisting that the states are largely on their own when it comes to procuring urgently needed medical supplies? How can he say this after having flatly declared “I don’t take responsibility at all” for his administration’s catastrophic failure to ramp up testing?

As former U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara put it, Trump is basically arguing that “my authority is total but my responsibility is zero.”

But in a sense, this isn’t really a contradiction at all, when you view the situation from Trump’s perspective: Both arguments serve precisely the same overarching goal.

When everything is all about maintaining appearances, with no concern whatsoever for underlying substance, this seeming contradiction disappears in a puff of Trumpian chaos pixie dust. Trump asserts “total” authority to be seen as taking charge in some general sense, while refusing to accept responsibility for specific bad outcomes to avoid being seen as at fault for them.

Writing at the Atlantic, Quinta Jurecic and Benjamin Wittes suggest that this crisis has revealed Trump to be a “lazy authoritarian,” who “loves the trappings of dictatorship” but cannot be bothered to put in the “hard work” of “wielding actual authority."

“If you wield actual authority, you become accountable for outcomes,” they write. “Trump hates accountability beyond all things.”

 

[Dr Dong]

ˆ
«Writing at the Atlantic, Quinta Jurecic and Benjamin Wittes suggest that this crisis has revealed Trump to be a “lazy authoritarian,” who “loves the trappings of dictatorship” but cannot be bothered to put in the “hard work” of “wielding actual authority."»

og gop står 100% bak det hele. det eneste som nå mangler er at det dukker opp en diktatorspire som ikke er så lat…

 

[Gjestemedlem]

Vel, du finner kanskje en forklaring her:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-about-trumps-despotic-claim-total-authority/

President Trump’s wild gyrations and reversals on coronavirus become a lot more intelligible when you realize he is motivated at bottom by a simple, unchanging imperative: Trump wants to be perceived as taking charge of the situation, without being held accountable for the horrible consequences of the bad decisions he has made along the way.

Now that Trump has declared “total” authority to reopen the American economy, insisting he “calls the shots” and governors do not, many commentators are pointing to an apparent contradiction.

How can Trump make this claim after spending weeks insisting that the states are largely on their own when it comes to procuring urgently needed medical supplies? How can he say this after having flatly declared “I don’t take responsibility at all” for his administration’s catastrophic failure to ramp up testing?

As former U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara put it, Trump is basically arguing that “my authority is total but my responsibility is zero.”

But in a sense, this isn’t really a contradiction at all, when you view the situation from Trump’s perspective: Both arguments serve precisely the same overarching goal.

When everything is all about maintaining appearances, with no concern whatsoever for underlying substance, this seeming contradiction disappears in a puff of Trumpian chaos pixie dust. Trump asserts “total” authority to be seen as taking charge in some general sense, while refusing to accept responsibility for specific bad outcomes to avoid being seen as at fault for them.

Writing at the Atlantic, Quinta Jurecic and Benjamin Wittes suggest that this crisis has revealed Trump to be a “lazy authoritarian,” who “loves the trappings of dictatorship” but cannot be bothered to put in the “hard work” of “wielding actual authority."

“If you wield actual authority, you become accountable for outcomes,” they write. “Trump hates accountability beyond all things.”

Vi er på rett spor her.. men ikke helt.

Her er vi på rett spor:

!But in a sense, this isn’t really a contradiction at all, when you view the situation from Trump’s perspective: Both arguments serve precisely the same overarching goal.

When everything is all about maintaining appearances, with no concern whatsoever for underlying substance, this seeming contradiction disappears in a puff of Trumpian chaos pixie dust. Trump asserts “total” authority to be seen as taking charge in some general sense, while refusing to accept responsibility for specific bad outcomes to avoid being seen as at fault for them.!

... men atter en gang, dette er avansert spill og ikke noe enhver idiot klarer. Det går ikke an å snuble seg til å bli president i USA. .. og som forklarer hvorfor jeg ikke liker idiotfoklaringene. De er dømt til å mislykkes.

Dette var en dråpe i havet, men skal man klare å vinne over Trump og hans like så må man slutte med idiotforklaringene og finne de svake punktene hvor man kan få fremdrift.

* snap out of ideologien. Lik det eller ikke. Trump er president i USA og ... verdens mektigste person. Hvor nyttig er denne idiotspammingen, og hva tror egentlig noen at man kan oppnå med det?

 

[kasol]

Wisconsin win boosts Democratic hopes to beat Trump in ultimate swing state

Democrats swept to victory Monday in a closely watched statewide election in the Rust Belt swing state of Wisconsin, defying predictions that coronavirus fears would give the GOP an edge.

A Democratic-backed candidate easily ousted the Republican pick in a fiercely contested race for a spot on the state’s Supreme Court that was mostly conducted via absentee ballot amid the coronavirus crisis.

The victory offers Democrats hope that they can win back the crucial state in November, when many polling geeks believe it could be the electoral college decider between President Trump and Joe Biden.

Biden also crushed Bernie Sanders by a 2-1 margin in the Democratic presidential primary vote that took place last week before Sanders dropped out of the race.

The rumpled lefty did pick up at least 13 additional delegates to the Democratic National Convention, which he hopes to use as leverage to push Biden to endorse some of his populist policy proposals.

Trump was unopposed in the GOP primary, which Republican strategists say gave Democrats a turnout advantage.

The most closely watched race was the face-off between progressive Jill Karofsky and incumbent Judge Daniel Kelly for a 10-year term on the state’s important Supreme Court. Conservatives now hold a 4-3 lead on the panel that has giving its blessing to blatant Republican gerrymandering of the state’s legislative and congressional districts.

Karofsky won by a veritable landslide margin of more than 10% despite low Election Day turnout in the Democratic stronghold of Milwaukee.

Democrats were right to fret about their supporters staying home or not voting. With just five polling places open instead of the usual 180, in-person turnout was a fraction of usual in the city of Milwaukee.

Voters, especially Democrats, complained that they never received the absentee ballots they requested, or got them after the Election Day deadline to mail them.

A divided U.S. Supreme Court ruled last Monday that despite the pandemic, only ballots mailed by Election Day could be counted. That decision gave Republicans hope that their more-reliable voters would carry the day.

But in the end it didn’t matter. Republican suburbs and small-town areas like the southwest corner of the state swung sharply to the Democrats.

If anything close to the same pattern holds true in November, then Trump is likely toast.

Democrats say the Wisconsin results prove that the political ground is shifting under Trump’s feet, especially as the nation plunges into a coronavirus-sparked recession. But the GOP can rightly argue that far more of its voters will turn out when Trump’s future is on the line in November.

Trump famously won the 2016 race by scoring upsets in the Democratic Rust Belt #bluewall strongholds of Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

Of the three, Wisconsin is considered most likely to stick with Trump this year. That means if Trump can eke out a win there, he will likely score four more years in the White House.

 

[Gjestemedlem]

Det kommer helt sikkert non idiotforklaringer på løpende bånd..

Men hva skjer egentlig her?

https://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/i/naxJ0L/donald-trump-har-beordret-stans-i-stoetten-til-who


... kan man vennligst slutte å se på Trump som en idiot men heller på en sterk motstander som vet akkurat hva han gjør? Jeg vet det er ingen hjemme her men jeg kan ikke la være å forsøke ...

.. men jeg er snart så oppgitt at jeg begynner å spamme 8-chan-tweeets og memes bare for å ha det gøy.

 

[Sluket]

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[Hardingfele]

Amerikanerne stiller på Omaha Beach uten ammo.

https://www.dn.no/utenriks/koronavi...-ammunisjon-nar-fienden-narmer-seg/2-1-791827

 

[kasol]

 

[erato]

Han vet nøyaktig hva han gjør Deph. Nemlig å sette seg selv i best mulig lys, uansett legalitet og fakta, og systematisk sette alle andre i et dårligst mulig lys, uansett realitetene.

"The Treasury Department has ordered President Trump’s name be printed on stimulus checks the Internal Revenue Service is rushing to send to tens of millions of Americans, a process that is expected to slow their delivery by several days, senior agency officials said.

The unprecedented decision, finalized late Monday, means that when recipients open the $1,200 paper checks the IRS is scheduled to begin sending to 70 million Americans in coming days, “President Donald J. Trump” will appear on the left side of the payment."

Han nekter å komme med redningspakke til postvesenet - trolig fordi de distribuerer pakker fra Amazon (Bezoz eier Washington Post) + at han er redd for at en åpning for postsstemmer skal redusere hans sjanser for gjenvalg.

Han har masse greie på meg, meg, meg. Bortsett fra det er han en stinkende pøl av uvitenhet.

 

[Asbjørn]

Det var også dyktig gjort å smyge inn en klausul i den økonomiske redningspakken som gir 170 milliarder dollar i skattelettelser skreddersydd for slik Trump og Kushner har organisert eiendomsselskapene sine. Det er nesten sju ganger så mye som den samlede støtten til flyselskapene, og 170 ganger mer enn støtten til togselskapet Amtrak som G_B irriterte seg over for noen sider tilbake.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/14/coronavirus-law-congress-tax-change/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/trump-kushner-could-reap-pandemic-windfall/

As the dust settles on the $2.2 trillion legislation, it has become clear that one of its largest provisions, a $170 billion tax giveaway, appears to be tailor-made for the benefit of wealthy real estate investors such as President Trump and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who is running one of Trump’s coronavirus task forces.

The giveaway, primarily to real estate investors and hedge funds, is larger than the total amount in the legislation for hospitals ($100 billion) and for relief for all state and local governments ($150 billion). Worse, the bonanza for these millionaires and billionaires has little to do with the coronavirus: It lets them offset losses not just from 2020 but from 2018 and 2019, before the pandemic.

Of course, we don’t know for sure how Trump could benefit. As you may have heard, he won’t release his tax returns. But we know that the Trump Organization includes hundreds of “pass-through” entities, the type of corporate structure that benefits from the new tax break. We also know that Kushner and his wife, Ivanka Trump, have been involved in hundreds of such entities. The windfall is particularly of use to pass-through businesses that lost money in 2018 and 2019 — when the economy was booming but many Trump properties had declining revenue because of Trump’s radioactivity.

Mannen er ikke talentløs selv om han er en inkompetent klovn som bare er interessert i å posere som Sterk Leder på TV, ikke i jobben med faktisk å lede og ta ansvar for utfallet. Han har dyktige medløpere i Senatet som vet hva han vil ha.

 

[Slubbert]

Jo, mannen selv er en total ignoramus, men han har et stort apparat rundt seg. I det apparatet er det mange dyktige folk.

 

[Gjestemedlem]

Det var også dyktig gjort å smyge inn en klausul i den økonomiske redningspakken som gir 170 milliarder dollar i skattelettelser skreddersydd for slik Trump og Kushner har organisert eiendomsselskapene sine. Det er nesten sju ganger så mye som den samlede støtten til flyselskapene, og 170 ganger mer enn støtten til togselskapet Amtrak som G_B irriterte seg over for noen sider tilbake.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/14/coronavirus-law-congress-tax-change/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/trump-kushner-could-reap-pandemic-windfall/

As the dust settles on the $2.2 trillion legislation, it has become clear that one of its largest provisions, a $170 billion tax giveaway, appears to be tailor-made for the benefit of wealthy real estate investors such as President Trump and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who is running one of Trump’s coronavirus task forces.

The giveaway, primarily to real estate investors and hedge funds, is larger than the total amount in the legislation for hospitals ($100 billion) and for relief for all state and local governments ($150 billion). Worse, the bonanza for these millionaires and billionaires has little to do with the coronavirus: It lets them offset losses not just from 2020 but from 2018 and 2019, before the pandemic.

Of course, we don’t know for sure how Trump could benefit. As you may have heard, he won’t release his tax returns. But we know that the Trump Organization includes hundreds of “pass-through” entities, the type of corporate structure that benefits from the new tax break. We also know that Kushner and his wife, Ivanka Trump, have been involved in hundreds of such entities. The windfall is particularly of use to pass-through businesses that lost money in 2018 and 2019 — when the economy was booming but many Trump properties had declining revenue because of Trump’s radioactivity.

Mannen er ikke talentløs selv om han er en inkompetent klovn som bare er interessert i å posere som Sterk Leder på TV, ikke i jobben med faktisk å lede og ta ansvar for utfallet. Han har dyktige medløpere i Senatet som vet hva han vil ha.

Ja, nå begynner vi å nærme oss noe. Hvordan kanalisere store summer i egen retning mens folk blir forledet av et eller annet tullball på twitter. Ligner mer og mer på noe slikt:



Jeg er også redd for at Kushner er sterkt undervurdert.

 

[erato]

Jo, mannen selv er en total ignoramus, men han har et stort apparat rundt seg. I det apparatet er det mange dyktige folk.

Joda. Og i tillegg svært mange medløpere (på alle sider) som er opplært i det samme politiske systemet som Trump: Hvordan mele sin egen kake. Aka sumpen. Som tidligere sagt; jeg skjønner godt at folk gjør opprør. At de velger "The sumpmaster " som opprørsgeneral er kanskje først og fremst en hylles til Trumps ene evne; en uovertruffen con-man.

 

[Gjestemedlem]

 

[Gjestemedlem]

Jo, mannen selv er en total ignoramus, men han har et stort apparat rundt seg. I det apparatet er det mange dyktige folk.

Joda. Og i tillegg svært mange medløpere (på alle sider) som er opplært i det samme politiske systemet som Trump: Hvordan mele sin egen kake. Aka sumpen. Som tidligere sagt; jeg skjønner godt at folk gjør opprør. At de velger "The sumpmaster " som opprørsgeneral er kanskje først og fremst en hylles til Trumps ene evne; en uovertruffen con-man.

Jepps, erato. Spot on.

Min forrige favoritt var Bernie Madoff.

.. dog med en lite caveat. For å være en con man må du forstå folk, og hvordan de reagerer. .. som sagt enhver idiot kan ikke snuble seg til å bli president i USA.

 

[Gjestemedlem]

..

 

[kasol]

Mange amerikanere blir nok skuffet nå

Banks can take your coronavirus check to pay off debts, Treasury says
Lauren Theisen
By LAUREN THEISEN

The coronavirus relief checks from the government’s stimulus package are starting to come through. But Americans who owe money to their bank might see only part or even none of what’s due to them.

According to a report from The American Prospect, the relief checks — which could be up to $1,200 for qualifying Americans — are not exempt from private debt collection. And because, if the IRS has their bank account on file, the money goes directly into the recipient’s account, it could easily be taken by banks to offset fees or unpaid loans.

The Prospect further reported that, in a meeting last week between Ronda Kent, chief disbursing officer with Treasury’s Bureau of the Fiscal Service, and banking officials, Kent noted that she had heard questions from banks over whether or not they could collect the directly deposited money.

“There’s nothing in the law that precludes that action,” she said.

Under the terms of the law, however, the Treasury does have the power to declare those payments exempt from bank collection. On Monday, a letter from 25 state attorneys general urged them to do just that. But there’s no indication that the federal government will act on that request, and unlike other government payments like social security or veterans benefits, this check is technically a “tax credit” and therefore can be seized by collectors.

Of the five large banks contacted by the Prospect about this situation, only JPMorgan responded, vowing not to follow their normal practice of offsetting negative balances with this incoming money. For many vulnerable Americans living paycheck-to-paycheck or worse during this pandemic, there’s a very real possibility that this much-needed sliver of relief could get snatched up by banks, payday lenders, or other predators looking to take advantage of the system.

Opponents of the practice, like Lauren Saunders, associate director with the National Consumer Law Center, told the Prospect that if debt collectors do grab this money, they’re choosing a despicable moment to do so.

“At a time when people are desperate to buy food, the idea that anybody would grab [the $1,200 payments], let alone the banks they trust with their money, is appalling.”

 

[Dr Dong]

Amerikanerne stiller på Omaha Beach uten ammo.

https://www.dn.no/utenriks/koronavi...-ammunisjon-nar-fienden-narmer-seg/2-1-791827

Vis vedlegget 580284

men kanskje er ikke dette 100% bort i natta? (eller i det minste; trump vil nok gjerne peke på who - fremfor å peke på seg selv -, men det fins også grunner til å peke på who…)

det ligger en historie bak dette, som går forut for trump, ja som sågar var med på å løfte trump til triumf!

HOW BUSH AND OBAMA CEDED THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION TO CHINA, INCREASING RISK OF PANDEMICS LIKE CORONAVIRUS
BY BILL POWELL ON 4/14/20 AT 7:37 PM EDT

 

[Dr Dong]

warren bak biden

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1250408560606969856?s=20

warrenvideo i linken


tillegg:

hva har de altså? en mann som neppe får stemmer fra fatalistene i rustbeltet, store problemer med ungdommen som støttet sanders, finanskreftene som har party under trump; og som samtidig vil bli skyteskive for metoobevegelsen og en skitstorm fra trump angående korrupsjon (han hunter, husker dere)… jeg skal ikke nevne den mulige demensen.

glad jeg ikke er spåmann.

 

[AndersR]

Det skal mere til for å stanse galskapen.
Blir nok fire år til.