Politikk, religion og samfunn President Donald J. Trump - Quo vadis? (Del 2)

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  • Dr_BASS

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    Poenget består: Uansett hvor redusert Biden etter hvert ble, var han fortsatt langt, langt å foretrekke fremfor nåværende psykopatiske undermåler.
    Videre innser jeg at du ikke kan vise til eksempler, men bare pøse på med påstander.
    jeg har da ikke diskutert på det, jeg ville også foretrukket en president som kan dø av alderdom når som helst. Det gjelder forsåvidt nå også..
    helt utrolig, man klarer alltid å ende opp med de eldste og minst uegnede til å styre verden, mens vi skulle valgt de smarteste og edleste til å gjøre det...
    men vi mennesker har vel en form for fetisj som går på selvskading og ulykkelighet

    edit:
    noen eksempler siden du maser sånn
     
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    otare

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    Trump har oppdaget et "nytt" ord - affordability - akkurat som han oppdaget ordet groceries i fjor høst.
    Og nå skriver han på løgnsiden sin at Walmart oppgir at Thanksgiving matkurven hos Walmart nå er 25% billigere enn den var i fjor. Det han ikke nevner er at matkurven i fjor besto av 29 varer, mens den i år består av 14. Og de 14 er alle sammen no-brand varer mens i fjor var det merkevarer i kurven. Jeg sier ikke at merkevarer automatisk er bedre, men de er alltid dyrere.
     

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    At gamle menn begynner å surre, er kanskje ingen stor nyhet. Men når personen i tillegg er ondskapsfull, hevngjerrig, impulsiv, irrasjonell, narsissistisk, stormannsgal, barnslig og hausses opp og støttes av en gjeng med ja-menn samt kyniske bakmenn med skumle planer, da aner vi konturene av et problem.
     

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    Trump har oppdaget et "nytt" ord - affordability - akkurat som han oppdaget ordet groceries i fjor høst.
    Og nå skriver han på løgnsiden sin at Walmart oppgir at Thanksgiving matkurven hos Walmart nå er 25% billigere enn den var i fjor. Det han ikke nevner er at matkurven i fjor besto av 29 varer, mens den i år består av 14. Og de 14 er alle sammen no-brand varer mens i fjor var det merkevarer i kurven. Jeg sier ikke at merkevarer automatisk er bedre, men de er alltid dyrere.
    Regner med at det ikke er hans egen handlekurv? 🤭
     

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    Alle som bruker chat gpt til noe annet enn underholdning er late idioter.
    Tok meg 2sekunder å finne komplett liste (første resultatet i søket)
    Det er en bullshit generator og såkalt kunstig intelligens er dummere enn en 5 åring.
    At man i det hele tatt tar noe den sier seriøst er skremmende.
    Der fikk du en like av defacto 👏👏👏.
    Det var bare å kalle noen for "idiot".
     

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    Skulle gjerne sett spesifikk handleliste for Walmart sin 2024 vs 2025 Thanksgiving liste, samt hvilken bunnlinje de to ga Walmart.
    Det er enkelt å gjøre ting billigere, men er det levedyktig i lengden?
     

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    Gitt at antallet varer er mer enn halvert og de fleste nå er "First Price" produkter, så er det nok ikke bunnlinjen til Walmart som lider.
     

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    Der fikk du en like av defacto 👏👏👏.
    Det var bare å kalle noen for "idiot".
    Som sedvanlig misforstår du hele saken. Han fikk en like fordi han brukte kritisk tenking og fant en rapport som sier det stikk motsatte av hva du klarer å finne med din enkle og litt slurvete søkemetodikk. Han fikk et liker klikk på grunn av etterrettlighet, ikke idiot betegnelser...selv om det til tider stemmer.
     

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    Fredsfyrsten har det gøy med å bombe fiskere.
     

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    Der fikk du en like av defacto 👏👏👏.
    Det var bare å kalle noen for "idiot".
    ikke bare idiot, men lat sådan :)
    Helt seriøst så er det min oppgitthet over bruken av KI som brukes ukritisk overalt.
    Noe så enkelt som tiltrekningsmoment på skruer til komponenter klarer den å tulle til, også tolkning av regelverk o.l føkkes til
    i arbeidslivet er det ikke mangel på ord rundt hvor fantastisk det er, jeg ser det selv blant mine kolleger der man bruker dette til feks å omformulere setninger, eller lage forslag til eposter. Som oftest fulle av feil og man ender opp med å bruke mere tid på å rette enn det hadde vært å gjøre det på den gamle måten.
    må bare passe på at vi ikke legger oss til vaner med å bruke KI til all slags ting, og tar alt den sier/gjør for god fisk.
    Det er tross alt ikke noe intelligens i dette, det er stor språkmodell som generer noe til tider meningsfullt med kunnskapen den er foret med. Problemet er at den er foret med masse misinformasjon fra feks forumer der det finnes 1000meninger og tolkninger rundt samme ting..
    med andre ord en bullshit generator..
    det eneste jeg har funnet så lang som dette er genialt til er å lage memes og underholdning...
     

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    ikke bare idiot, men lat sådan :)
    Helt seriøst så er det min oppgitthet over bruken av KI som brukes ukritisk overalt.
    Det mange glemmer av, er at de fleste KI-tjenestene husker hva du har gitt som input og putter det inn i sin modell. Dette betyr at det er en risiko for å lekke bedriftskritiske data videre, om du bruker den i jobbsammenheng.

    Johan-Kr
     

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    Det mange glemmer av, er at de fleste KI-tjenestene husker hva du har gitt som input og putter det inn i sin modell. Dette betyr at det er en risiko for å lekke bedriftskritiske data videre, om du bruker den i jobbsammenheng.
    Både jobben min og kommunen her har avtale om instans av Copilot/ChatGPT som ikkje sender data vidare. Ein veit jo aldri, men eg trur det er mange som skal «satsar på KI» som har liknande avtaler.
     

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    Det er visst ikke lett å finne fram i The WHite House. Ikke for Donald i hvert fall:
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    Legg merke til at det er papirutskrift på 3 ark i gullskrift selvfølgelig. Tydeligvis noe som er lagd i all hast når de oppdaget at Trump ikke vet hvor kontoret hans (eller han selv) er.
    (Bildet er hentet fra The Independent)

     

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    Dette gjelder ikke bare forbud mot at ikke-binære får benytte seg av en tredje kjønnskategori, men også at ingen får velge noe annet enn sitt biologiske fødekjønn. For de det gjelder vil jeg si at dette er både nedverdigende, dehumaniserende, og et menneskerettighetsovergrep. Alle skal gå i takt, alle skal være like. Every knee shall bow.

     

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    tacogutten slår til igjen
    mesteparten av Europa blir rett og slett rævkjørt av en taco + den-til-enhver-tid-gjeldende-ytterste-høyre-yngling-fra-europa.

    kanskje på tide at eu brytes også former man et nytt EU2.0 der europeiske land med nogenlunde samme interesser samles.
     
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    Enig, MSM går over grenser!! De bedriver skittent politisk manipulasjon.

    Det er en gigantisk skandale at BBC som er kjent for å være en pålitelig kilde har redigert videoen av Trumps tale slik at seerne fikk inntrykk av at han oppfordret til vold og storming av kongressen når han egentlig sa det motsatte. Dette er ikke noe å feie bort med å si at Trumps propagandaapparat er værre. På denne måten mister jo BBC all troverdighet, og havner ned på lista sammen med Fox og de andre møkkasprederne.
     

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    Jeg tenker at det vel er et godt og langt stykke ned til Fox & Co som i mange av sine programmer nærmest utelukkende sprer løgn og fordreide analyser, så å male BBC med samme pensel blir veldig drøyt. Men at dette er en skandale er det ingen tvil om.
     

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    Mannen er en fullstendig ko-ko trumpist. Få han bort.
    – Han får til ting og gjør som han sier. Han sier faktisk det mange mennesker tenker, men kanskje ikke tør å si. Det er derfor han er så vellykket. Noen ganger blir jeg overrasket over å lese en del av de negative kommentarene.

    Trump roste Infantino fra scenen onsdag og kalte han «en stor stjerne» og «min gutt». Han var ikke til stede da det noen timer senere var Fifa-sjefens tur til å tale.

    – Jeg er veldig heldig som har et flott forhold til president Trump, og jeg anser ham som en virkelig nær venn. Han har en utrolig energi, og det er noe jeg beundrer, sa Infantino.

    Deretter gikk han i rette med dem som mener Trump-administrasjonen er antidemokratisk.

    – Jeg er ikke amerikaner, men slik jeg forstår det, ble president Trump valgt ganske klart. Når du er i et så flott demokrati som USA, bør du først og fremst respektere valgresultatet, ikke sant?

    – Til sjuende og sist ble han valgt basert på sitt program og det han sa. Han gjennomfører bare det han sa han ville gjøre. Så jeg tror vi alle bør støtte det han gjør, for jeg synes det ser ganske bra ut.
     

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    Vi begynner å få en ganske god ide om hvor terrorisme kommer fra ....
    Det holder tydeligvis ikke med å holde øyne med skjeggete karer fra Midt-Østen.
     
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    Trump har jo utnevnt seg selv som leder av The Kennedy Center i Washington DC. Resultat? En kraftig reduksjon i publikum. En nedgang på 43% solgte billetter siden Trump "tok over". 1 million $ i tapte billettinntekter i løpet av 45 dager!
    Når man spør de som pleide å gå dit før sier de at det skyldes en endring i hva senteret nå står for.

    "That means that, at most, 57 percent of tickets were sold for the typical production — and some tickets may have been 'comps,' which are given away, often to staff members or the press. That compares with 93 percent sold or comped in fall 2024 and 80 percent in fall 2023," write Travis M. Andrews, Jeremy B. Merrill and Shelly Tan in the Post.
    Astonishingly, the Center has lost out on roughly $1 million in revenue just 45 days into show season and numerous artists have cancelled performances or outright refused to perform so long as Trump maintains his crooked iron grip over the center."
    ... alt han sier.
    ... alt han gjør.
    ABSOLUTT ALT!
     

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    Jeg tenker at det vel er et godt og langt stykke ned til Fox & Co som i mange av sine programmer nærmest utelukkende sprer løgn og fordreide analyser, så å male BBC med samme pensel blir veldig drøyt. Men at dette er en skandale er det ingen tvil om.
    Det er nok et godt stykke ned til Fox & co men dette gjør noe med tilliten til de institusjonene som vi har oppfattet som seriøse nyhetsformidlere. Hvem og hva kan man da stole på ? Dette er jo demagogers våte drøm, en forvirret befolkning som kan påvirkes i den retning man vil ha dem.
     

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    Det er nok et godt stykke ned til Fox & co men dette gjør noe med tilliten til de institusjonene som vi har oppfattet som seriøse nyhetsformidlere. Hvem og hva kan man da stole på ? Dette er jo demagogers våte drøm, en forvirret befolkning som kan påvirkes i den retning man vil ha dem.
    BBC gjør en feil (altså én feil), blir ferska, ettergått og sanksjonert. En rekke amerikanske medieselskaper gjør det samme på daglig basis, ikke ettergått eller sanksjonert.
    Og de vi skal miste tillit til er BBC.
     

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    Mannen er en fullstendig ko-ko trumpist. Få han bort.
    – Han får til ting og gjør som han sier. Han sier faktisk det mange mennesker tenker, men kanskje ikke tør å si. Det er derfor han er så vellykket. Noen ganger blir jeg overrasket over å lese en del av de negative kommentarene.

    Trump roste Infantino fra scenen onsdag og kalte han «en stor stjerne» og «min gutt». Han var ikke til stede da det noen timer senere var Fifa-sjefens tur til å tale.

    – Jeg er veldig heldig som har et flott forhold til president Trump, og jeg anser ham som en virkelig nær venn. Han har en utrolig energi, og det er noe jeg beundrer, sa Infantino.

    Deretter gikk han i rette med dem som mener Trump-administrasjonen er antidemokratisk.

    – Jeg er ikke amerikaner, men slik jeg forstår det, ble president Trump valgt ganske klart. Når du er i et så flott demokrati som USA, bør du først og fremst respektere valgresultatet, ikke sant?

    – Til sjuende og sist ble han valgt basert på sitt program og det han sa. Han gjennomfører bare det han sa han ville gjøre. Så jeg tror vi alle bør støtte det han gjør, for jeg synes det ser ganske bra ut.
    Bærer man navnet Infantino har man på mange måter retten til å tenke på verden som om man var et spebarn.
    Men jeg synes det blir litt problematisk nå spebarna samler seg med en plan om å styre verden på sin egen måte. De burde heller konsentrere seg om hvordan de skal tørke seg i rævva etter å ha vært på dass.
     

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    BBC gjør en feil (altså én feil), blir ferska, ettergått og sanksjonert. En rekke amerikanske medieselskaper gjør det samme på daglig basis, ikke ettergått eller sanksjonert.
    Og de vi skal miste tillit til er BBC.
    BBC har i mitt hode vært synonymt med sannferdig god journalistikk. De amerikanske medieselskapene ? Not so much.
     

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    Her er talen. Anklagene mot BBCs Panorama-program er latterlige.

    For dem som ikke vil lese hele, her er avslutningen:

    And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.
    Our exciting adventures and boldest endeavors have not yet begun. My fellow Americans, for our movement, for our children, and for our beloved country.
    And I say this despite all that's happened. The best is yet to come.
    So we're going to, we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we're going to the Capitol, and we're going to try and give.
    The Democrats are hopeless — they never vote for anything. Not even one vote. But we're going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don't need any of our help. We're going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.
    So let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.

    I want to thank you all. God bless you and God Bless America.

    Thank you all for being here. This is incredible. Thank you very much. Thank you.


    Og Trump var forbannet på Secret Service, som forhindret ham fra å bli med på marsjen mot Kongressen.


    Slutt å kjøpe alle avledningsmanøvrene til Trump. Mannen ønsket da og ønsker nå å knuse det amerikanske demokratiet.

    Fordi HFS ikke aksepterer over 60000 tegn må jeg også klippe og lime. Her kan man lese hele og også se den:


    Well, thank you very much. This is incredible.

    Media will not show the magnitude of this crowd. Even I, when I turned on today, I looked, and I saw thousands of people here. But you don't see hundreds of thousands of people behind you because they don't want to show that.

    We have hundreds of thousands of people here and I just want them to be recognized by the fake news media. Turn your cameras please and show what's really happening out here because these people are not going to take it any longer. They're not going to take it any longer. Go ahead. Turn your cameras, please. Would you show? They came from all over the world, actually, but they came from all over our country.

    I just really want to see what they do. I just want to see how they covered. I've never seen anything like it. But it would be really great if we could be covered fairly by the media. The media is the biggest problem we have as far as I'm concerned, single biggest problem. The fake news and the Big tech.

    Big tech is now coming into their own. We beat them four years ago. We surprised them. We took them by surprise and this year they rigged an election. They rigged it like they've never rigged an election before. And by the way, last night they didn't do a bad job either if you notice.

    I'm honest. And I just, again, I want to thank you. It's just a great honor to have this kind of crowd and to be before you and hundreds of thousands of American patriots who are committed to the honesty of our elections and the integrity of our glorious republic.

    All of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by emboldened radical-left Democrats, which is what they're doing. And stolen by the fake news media. That's what they've done and what they're doing. We will never give up, we will never concede. It doesn't happen. You don't concede when there's theft involved.

    Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that's what this is all about. And to use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with: We will stop the steal. Today I will lay out just some of the evidence proving that we won this election and we won it by a landslide. This was not a close election.

    You know, I say, sometimes jokingly, but there's no joke about it: I've been in two elections. I won them both and the second one, I won much bigger than the first. OK. Almost 75 million people voted for our campaign, the most of any incumbent president by far in the history of our country, 12 million more people than four years ago.

    And I was told by the real pollsters — we do have real pollsters — they know that we were going to do well and we were going to win. What I was told, if I went from 63 million, which we had four years ago, to 66 million, there was no chance of losing. Well, we didn't go to 66, we went to 75 million, and they say we lost. We didn't lose.

    And by the way, does anybody believe that Joe had 80 million votes? Does anybody believe that? He had 80 million computer votes. It's a disgrace. There's never been anything like that. You could take third-world countries. Just take a look. Take third-world countries. Their elections are more honest than what we've been going through in this country. It's a disgrace. It's a disgrace.

    Even when you look at last night. They're all running around like chickens with their heads cut off with boxes. Nobody knows what the hell is going on. There's never been anything like this.

    We will not let them silence your voices. We're not going to let it happen, I'm not going to let it happen.

    (Audience chants: "Fight for Trump.")

    Thank you.

    And I'd love to have if those tens of thousands of people would be allowed. The military, the secret service. And we want to thank you and the police law enforcement. Great. You're doing a great job. But I'd love it if they could be allowed to come up here with us. Is that possible? Can you just let him come up, please?

    And Rudy, you did a great job. He's got guts. You know what? He's got guts, unlike a lot of people in the Republican Party. He's got guts. He fights, he fights.

    And I'll tell you. Thank you very much, John. Fantastic job. I watched. That's a tough act to follow, those two. John is one of the most brilliant lawyers in the country, and he looked at this and he said, "What an absolute disgrace that this can be happening to our Constitution."

    And he looked at Mike Pence, and I hope Mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so. I hope so.

    Because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. All he has to do, all this is, this is from the number one, or certainly one of the top, Constitutional lawyers in our country. He has the absolute right to do it. We're supposed to protect our country, support our country, support our Constitution, and protect our constitution.


    States want to revote. The states got defrauded. They were given false information. They voted on it. Now they want to recertify. They want it back. All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people.

    And I actually, I just spoke to Mike. I said: "Mike, that doesn't take courage. What takes courage is to do nothing. That takes courage." And then we're stuck with a president who lost the election by a lot and we have to live with that for four more years. We're just not going to let that happen.

    Many of you have traveled from all across the nation to be here, and I want to thank you for the extraordinary love. That's what it is. There's never been a movement like this, ever, ever. For the extraordinary love for this amazing country, and this amazing movement, thank you.

    (Audience chants: "We love Trump.")

    By the way, this goes all the way back past the Washington Monument. You believe this? Look at this. That is. Unfortunately gave, they gave the press the prime seats. I can't stand that.

    No. But you look at that behind. I wish they'd flip those cameras and look behind you. That is the most amazing sight. When they make a mistake, you get to see it on television. Amazing. Amazing. All the way back.

    And don't worry, we will not take the name off the Washington Monument. We will not cancel culture.

    You know they wanted to get rid of the Jefferson Memorial. Either take it down or just put somebody else in there. I don't think that's going to happen. It damn well better not. Although, with this administration, if this happens, it could happen. You'll see some really bad things happen.

    They'll knock out Lincoln too, by the way. They've been taking his statue down. But then we signed a little law. You hurt our monuments, you hurt our heroes, you go to jail for 10 years, and everything stopped. You notice that? It stopped. It all stopped.

    And they could use Rudy back in New York City. Rudy. They could use you. Your city's going to hell. They want Rudy Giuliani back in New York. We'll get a little younger version of Rudy. Is that OK, Rudy?

    We're gathered together in the heart of our nation's capital for one very, very basic and simple reason: To save our democracy.

    /KLIPP

    And you have to get your people to fight. And if they don't fight, we have to primary the hell out of the ones that don't fight. You primary them. We're going to. We're going to let you know who they are. I can already tell you, frankly.

    But this year, using the pretext of the China virus and the scam of mail-in ballots, Democrats attempted the most brazen and outrageous election theft and there's never been anything like this. So pure theft in American history. Everybody knows it.

    That election, our election was over at 10 o'clock in the evening. We're leading Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, by hundreds of thousands of votes.

    And then late in the evening, or early in the morning, boom, these explosions of bull****.

    And all of a sudden. All of a sudden it started to happen.

    (Audience chants: "Bullshit.")

    /KLIPP

    And Mike Pence is going to have to come through for us, and if he doesn't, that will be a, a sad day for our country because you're sworn to uphold our Constitution.

    Now, it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we're going to walk down, and I'll be there with you, we're going to walk down, we're going to walk down.

    Anyone you want, but I think right here, we're going to walk down to the Capitol, and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them.

    Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated.

    I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.


    Today we will see whether Republicans stand strong for integrity of our elections. But whether or not they stand strong for our country, our country. Our country has been under siege for a long time. Far longer than this four-year period. We've set it on a much greater course. So much, and we, I thought, you know, four more years. I thought it would be easy.

    /KLIPP

    Today, for the sake of our democracy, for the sake of our Constitution, and for the sake of our children, we lay out the case for the entire world to hear. You want to hear it?

    (Audience responds: "Yeah")

    In every single swing state, local officials, state officials, almost all Democrats, made illegal and unconstitutional changes to election procedures without the mandated approvals by the state legislatures.

    That these changes paved a way for fraud on a scale never seen before. I think we go a long way outside of our country when I say that.

    So, just in a nutshell, you can't make a change or voting for a federal election unless the state legislature approves it. No judge can do it. Nobody can do it. Only a legislature.

    So as an example, in Pennsylvania, or whatever, you have a Republican legislature, you have a Democrat mayor, and you have a lot of Democrats all over the place. They go to the legislature. The legislature laughs at them, says we're not going to do that. They say, thank you very much and they go and make the changes themselves, they do it anyway. And that's totally illegal. That's totally illegal. You can't do that.

    In Pennsylvania, the Democrat secretary of state and the Democrat state Supreme Court justices illegally abolished the signature verification requirements just 11 days prior to the election.

    So think of what they did. No longer is there signature verification. Oh, that's OK. We want voter ID by the way. But no longer is there a signature verification. Eleven days before the election they say we don't want it. You know why they don't want to? Because they want to cheat. That's the only reason.

    Who would even think of that? We don't want to verify a signature?

    There were over 205,000 more ballots counted in Pennsylvania. Think of this, you had 205,000 more ballots than you had voters. That means you had two. Where did they come from? You know where they came from? Somebody's imagination, whatever they needed.

    So in Pennsylvania, you had 205,000 more votes than you had voters. And the number is actually much greater than that now. That was as of a week ago. And this is a mathematical impossibility unless you want to say it's a total fraud.

    So Pennsylvania was defrauded. Over 8,000 ballots in Pennsylvania were cast by people whose names and dates of birth match individuals who died in 2020 and prior to the election. Think of that. Dead people, lots of dead people, thousands. And some dead people actually requested an application. That bothers me even more.

    Not only are they voting, they want an application to vote. One of them was 29 years ago, died. It's incredible. Over 14,000 ballots were cast by out-of-state voters, so these are voters that don't live in this state.

    And by the way, these numbers are what they call outcome-determinative, meaning these numbers far surpass. I lost by a very little bit. These numbers are massive, massive.

    More than 10,000 votes in Pennsylvania were illegally counted, even though they were received after Election Day. In other words, they were received after Election Day. Let's count them anyway.

    And what they did in many cases is, they did fraud. They took the date and they moved it back so that it no longer is after Election Day. And more than 60,000 ballots in Pennsylvania were reported received back. They got back before they were ever supposedly mailed out. In other words, you got the ballot back before you mailed it, which is also logically and logistically impossible, right?

    Think of that one. You got the ballot back. Let's send the ballots. Oh, they've already been sent. But we got the ballot back before they were sent. I don't think that's too good, right?

    Twenty-five thousand ballots in Pennsylvania were requested by nursing home residents, all in a single giant batch, not legal, indicating an enormous, illegal ballot harvesting operation. You're not allowed to do it, it's against the law.

    The day before the election, the state of Pennsylvania reported the number of absentee ballots that had been sent out. Yet this number was suddenly and drastically increased by 400,000 people. It was increased, nobody knows where it came from, by 400,000 ballots, one day after the election.

    It remains totally unexplained. They said, "Well, ah, we can't figure that." Now, that's many, many times what it would take to overthrow the state. Just that one element. Four hundred thousand ballots appeared from nowhere right after the election.

    By the way, Pennsylvania has now seen all of this. They didn't know because it was so quick. They had a vote. They voted. But now they see all this stuff, it's all come to light. Doesn't happen that fast. And they want to recertify their votes. They want to recertify. But the only way that can happen is if Mike Pence agrees to send it back. Mike Pence has to agree to send it back.

    (Audience chants: "Send it back.")

    And many people in Congress want it sent back.

    /KLIPP

    But think of this. If you don't do that, that means you will have a president of the United States for four years, with his wonderful son. You will have a president who lost all of these states. Or you will have a president, to put it another way, who was voted on by a bunch of stupid people who lost all of these states.

    You will have an illegitimate president. That's what you'll have. And we can't let that happen.

    These are the facts that you won't hear from the fake news media. It's all part of the suppression effort. They don't want to talk about it. They don't want to talk about it. In fact, when I started talking about that, I guarantee you, a lot of the television sets and a lot of those cameras went off. And that's a lot of cameras back there. But a lot of them went off.

    But these are the things you don't hear about. You don't hear what you just heard. I'm going to go over a few more states. But you don't hear it by the people who want to deceive you and demoralize you and control you. Big tech, media.

    /KLIPP

    So, I mean, I could go on and on about this fraud that took place in every state, and all of these legislatures want this back. I don't want to do it to you because I love you and it's freezing out here. But I could just go on forever. I can tell you this.

    (Audience chants: "We love you.")

    So when you hear, when you hear, while there is no evidence to prove any wrongdoing, this is the most fraudulent thing anybody has, this is a criminal enterprise. This is a criminal enterprise. And the press will say, and I'm sure they won't put any of that on there, because that's no good. And you ever see, while there is no evidence to back President Trump's assertion.

    I could go on for another hour reading this stuff to you and telling you about it. There's never been anything like it.

    /KLIPP

    We won in a landslide. This was a landslide. They said it's not American to challenge the election. This the most corrupt election in the history, maybe of the world.

    You know, you could go third-world countries, but I don't think they had hundreds of thousands of votes and they don't have voters for them. I mean no matter where you go, nobody would think this.

    In fact, it's so egregious, it's so bad that a lot of people don't even believe it. It's so crazy that people don't even believe it. It can't be true. So they don't believe it.

    This is not just a matter of domestic politics — this is a matter of national security.

    So today, in addition to challenging the certification of the election, I'm calling on Congress and the state legislatures to quickly pass sweeping election reforms, and you better do it before we have no country left.

    Today is not the end, it's just the beginning.

    With your help over the last four years, we built the greatest political movement in the history of our country and nobody even challenges that.

    I say that over and over, and I never get challenged by the fakeness, and they challenge almost everything we say.

    But our fight against the big donors, big media, big tech, and others is just getting started. This is the greatest in history. There's never been a movement like that.

    You look back there all the way to the Washington Monument. It's hard to believe.

    We must stop the steal and then we must ensure that such outrageous election fraud never happens again, can never be allowed to happen again.

    But we're going forward. We'll take care of going forward. We've got to take care of going back. Don't let them talk. OK, well, we promised. I've had a lot of people. Sir, you're at 96% for four years. I said I'm not interested right now. I'm interested in right there.

    With your help, we will finally pass powerful requirements for voter ID. You need an ID to cash a check. You need an ID to go to a bank, to buy alcohol, to drive a car. Every person should need to show an ID in order to cast your most important thing, a vote.

    We will also require proof of American citizenship in order to vote in American elections. We just had a good victory in court on that one, actually.

    We will ban ballot harvesting and prohibit the use of unsecured drop boxes to commit rampant fraud. These drop boxes are fraudulent. Therefore, they get disapp — they disappear, and then all of a sudden they show up. It's fraudulent.

    We will stop the practice of universal unsolicited mail-in balloting.

    We will clean up the voter rolls that ensure that every single person who casts a vote is a citizen of our country, a resident of the state in which they vote and their vote is cast in a lawful and honest manner.

    We will restore the vital civic tradition of in-person voting on Election Day so that voters can be fully informed when they make their choice.

    We will finally hold big tech accountable. And if these people had courage and guts, they would get rid of Section 230, something that no other company, no other person in America, in the world has.

    All of these tech monopolies are going to abuse their power and interfere in our elections, and it has to be stopped. And the Republicans have to get a lot tougher, and so should the Democrats. They should be regulated, investigated, and brought to justice under the fullest extent of the law. They're totally breaking the law.

    Together, we will drain the Washington swamp and we will clean up the corruption in our nation's capital. We have done a big job on it, but you think it's easy. It's a dirty business. It's a dirty business. You have a lot of bad people out there.

    Despite everything we've been through, looking out all over this country and seeing fantastic crowds. Although this, I think, is our all-time record. I think you have 250,000 people. 250,000.

    Looking out at all the amazing patriots here today, I have never been more confident in our nation's future. Well, I have to say, we have to be a little bit careful. That's a nice statement, but we have to be a little careful with that statement.

    If we allow this group of people to illegally take over our country because it's illegal when the votes are illegal when the way they got there is illegal when the states that vote are given false and fraudulent information.

    We are the greatest country on Earth and we are headed and were headed in the right direction.

    You know, the wall is built. We're doing record numbers at the wall. Now, they want to take down the wall. Let's let everyone flow in. Let's let everybody flow in. We did a great job in the wall. Remember, the wall, they said it could never be done. One of the largest infrastructure projects we've ever had in this country, and it's had a tremendous impact, that we got rid of catch and release. We got rid of all of this stuff that we had to live with.

    But now, the caravans, I think Biden's getting in, the caravans are forming again. They want to come in again and rip off our country. Can't let it happen.

    As this enormous crowd shows, we have truth and justice on our side. We have a deep and enduring love for America in our hearts. We love our country.

    We have overwhelming pride in this great country and we have it deep in our souls. Together, we are determined to defend and preserve government of the people, by the people and for the people.

    Our brightest days are before us. Our greatest achievements, still away.

    I think one of our great achievements will be election security. Because nobody until I came along had any idea how corrupt our elections were.

    And again, most people would stand there at 9 o'clock in the evening and say I want to thank you very much, and they go off to some other life. But I said something's wrong here, something is really wrong, can have happened.

    And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.

    Our exciting adventures and boldest endeavors have not yet begun. My fellow Americans, for our movement, for our children, and for our beloved country.

    And I say this despite all that's happened. The best is yet to come.

    So we're going to, we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we're going to the Capitol, and we're going to try and give.

    The Democrats are hopeless — they never vote for anything. Not even one vote. But we're going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don't need any of our help. We're going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.

    So let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.

    I want to thank you all. God bless you and God Bless America.

    Thank you all for being here. This is incredible. Thank you very much. Thank you.
     

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    Jeg så live i flere timer hva som skjedde 6. januar, og så og hørte hvordan tRump både oppildnet og oppfordret mobben til å gå mot kongressen.
    Å så tvil om det, er faen meg dummere enn å så tvil om månelandingen.
    At man i et TVprogram flere år etter redigerer og klipper er slik man gjør det.
     
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