POTENSIELL SCAM?

[LMC]

fant en L-07D på nettet som så fryktelig billig ut
dukket opp på flere brukt"siter" med litt ulike priser og forskjllig location...både UK og Canada
men teksten var den samme
her er mailrekka:
begynn nederst

I will explain you step by step this type of "escrow" and all the details I think you need to close this deal quick and succesfully .
SHIPPMENT ---this is a thing about you shouldn't worry about because i believe that it is my responsibility to deliver them to your home. I will ship the item via UPS insured and It will take 3-4 days until you will have it at your door. The shipping costs will be payed by me and i will also pay for the insurance in case of any damage happens during the handling and shipping, so i will be protected in case off damages and you too..
PAYMENT-----For payment I prefer a western union wire transfer(www.westernunion.com) because due to the birocracy from here if I will involve my bank in my deals i won't be able to pick up my money in less then three weeks instead of 5 days.
I'm a member of Escrow Europe and we will do the deal through them.If you mail me your address and i will contact Escrow Europe Immediatly and the deal we`ll be between you and Escrow Europe.The only thing that remains for me to do is to proceed with shipping.
If you agree with this method i will contact Escrow Europe immediately and you will receive a notification from them with all the details you need to start this deal.You will have to give them the payment details. They will check for me the money transfer and if they confirm me the transfer i will immediately proceed with shipping.
You will receive the item as i said in 3-4 days and after you check them and test them and see that everything is as i said you'll have to confirm immediately to Escrow Europe Representative that the deal is ok and they will give me the payment details so i can go and cash the money.The seller is not able to receive any money until you receive and confirm the product is the one you paid for .
Also you'll have a 30 day period for inspection and testing of the item.In this 30 days you can decide wether you want to keep them or not and you will get a full refound in this case. If for any reason you do not accept the item or if the product have scratches, hidden defects, or they are not as advertised i'll give you the money back. I will even pay for the shipping back to my location if you reject the product.


let me know if you are agree

--- On Thu, 10/15/09, leif.christensen@dnbnor.no <leif.christensen@dnbnor.no> wrote:


From: leif.christensen@dnbnor.no <leif.christensen@dnbnor.no>
Subject: RE: TRIO L-07D
To:
Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 11:20 AM


Hello

Hoe does escrow work? like paypal?



Very best regards

Leif Christensen








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From:
Sent: 15. oktober 2009 12:32
To: Christensen, Leif M
Subject: RE: TRIO L-07D



As a delivery service we use UPS 3 days air service from Europe (with insurance and
30 days return policy), because it's the faster.. And if you will have
a quick payment, we must also have a quick delivery. So that's why we
use as a payment method like escrow service by Escrow Europe .
So, if you agree with my terms I'm sure that we can close the deal .


Let me know

--- On Thu, 10/15/09, leif.christensen@dnbnor.no <leif.christensen@dnbnor.no> wrote:


From: leif.christensen@dnbnor..no <leif.christensen@dnbnor.no>
Subject: RE: TRIO L-07D
To:
Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 6:42 AM

Hello

Thxs for swift reply

Where are you situated? London UK ? I found the ad both in UKClassifieds where it says location London and Tradepoint Canada where it says Anderson Settlement,NB? How and from where do you ship?

Do you have a PAYPAL account?

Pls reply with copy to:

christensenleif@msn.com



Very best regards

Leif Christensen

Skorkebergasen 32

1440 Drobak

Norway






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From: ]
Sent: 14. oktober 2009 22:22
To: Christensen, Leif M
Subject: Re: TRIO L-07D



HI
First I want to tell you that my L-07D is in perfect condition.you have free shipping also.
My price is the best you could get: 700 $ , including the shipping and insurance taxes.More,you will have 30
days to inspect the item ( i mean ,if in 30 days you will change your mind you will resend the item to me on my expenses ).

let me know

--- On Wed, 10/14/09, leif.christensen@dnbnor.no <leif.christensen@dnbnor.no> wrote:


From: leif.christensen@dnbnor.no <leif.christensen@dnbnor.no>
Subject: TRIO L-07D
To:
Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 8:59 AM

Hello

Do you still have the above turntable for sale

If so;what condition is it in?

Was it originally sold in UK as a 230volt unit?





Very best regards

Leif Christensen

 

[tkr]

Får ikke akkurat noen god følelse når jeg leser det der. Såvidt jeg kan finne ut, svarer han ikke på noe av det du spør om.
Dårlig til å stave er han også.

mvh

 

[LMC]

alarm-klokka mi gikk definitivt når wire transfer med western union dukket opp og jeg fant ut at navnet han har i mailadressen sin er navnet til sentralbanksjefen i moldova!
dimitru ursu på yahoo adresse!
mvh
Leif

 

[JanR]

dimitru ursu på yahoo adresse!
mvh
Leif

Wow ;D

/jan

 

[nb]

"I will explain you step by step this type of "escrow" and all the details I think you need to close this deal quick and succesfully ."

Nei takk.

 

[Wright]

Elegant hvordan han «glemmer» å svare på om han befinner seg i London eller Canada. Har tilgode å høre om bruk av Western Union over nettet som ikke dreier seg om svindel.

 

[nb]

Det har et navn (og en Wikipedia-artikkel)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogus_escrow

<i>
In the bogus escrow scam, a scammer sets itself up as the recipient of money or goods and then requests the use of an escrow service which is, in fact, self-operated. This bogus escrow service assures the victim that the scammer has sent its item and that the victim should send its item to the escrow service. In fact, this amounts to sending the item to the scammer, who then immediately closes down the escrow service and does not send its item to the victim. The scammer blames the escrow service, claiming that the item was with it at the time it closed down; if the victim did not investigate the escrow service before using it, the ruse may be believed.[citation needed]

The bogus escrow scam is popular on eBay, where escrow services are often used for high-value transactions. The rise of Internet escrow has led to a dramatic increase in bogus internet escrow companies. However, several legitimate and licensed escrow companies do exist
</i>

 

[gut_man]

Western Union er i grunnen nok for at jeg takker for meg ved slike handler. Ellers var det plenty med røde lamper som gikk av ved å lese korrespondansen.

 

[LMC]

enig
men det var litt spennende 8)
mvh
Leif

 

[LMC]

her er den ene annonsen
http://www.ukclassifieds.co.uk/turntable_kenwood_l07d_direct_drive-o1069489.html
og her er den andre
http://www.tradepoint.ca/RegularItemDetails.aspx?itemId=178383&CategoryId=-1

be warned!
mvh
Leif

 

[R.S.]

Dette hadde jeg ikke trodd om sentralbanksjefen i Moldova



Mvh. RS

 

[LMC]

det hadde jeg! ;D
andelen gangstere syd for tyskland stiger dramatisk!
imo
mvh
Leif

 

[Barbaresco]

Jeg bakket også ut av en handel en gang Western Union var eneste aksepterte betalingskanal. Vet selvsagt ikke at det var svindel, men stor sannsynlighet for det, ja. Husker heldigvis navnet på selgeren godt, og har antennene ute.