Falittboet Cuba, moralsk og økonomisk

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Hvorfor vil Cuba absolutt handle med den store satan USA, istedet for koselige små sosialistiske folkedemokratier?
http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=166616

Dette demonstrerer på en lettfattelig måte kapitalismens overlegenhet, og statsmonopolismens underlegenhet. Cuba er et eneste stort fengsel.
 
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Gjestemedlem

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Det løser seg vel opp der og etterhvert.

Den eneste grunnen til at dette har vart så lenge er USAs tåpelige handelsblokkade som har samlet folket rundt Castro. I allefall i de senere år etter at østblokken kollapset. Hadde de istedet oversvømt Cuba med amerikanske varer og kultur hadde sigarmannen vært historie for lengst. Men jo mer man prøver å isolere slike stater, jo tryggere sitter lederne ved makten.

Men mye av de økonomiske problemene og den lave levestandarden skyldes nettopp handelsblokkaden også. Det er som om Norge skulle lage en handelsblokkade rundt Island fordi vi heller ville ha dem som en norsk koloni enn en selvstendig stat, og så bli forbauset om stemingen der ble litt antinorsk etterhvert.
 
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Atle Kristiansen

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Ned med handelsblokkaden.

Cuba opplever forøvrig allerede stigende konjunkturer som følge av bedre sammarbeid innad i Latin-Amerika. Terrorismen fra USA (les deg litt opp om Luis Posada Carilles: sprengte turisthoteller og fly, med tung finansiering fra amerikansk etteretning, rømte fra soning, lever nå i eksil i florida; og grisebukta, misilkrisen, handelsblokadene og all annen statsfinansiert terror Cuba har lidd under) har vist seg lite effektiv og blir i så måte intet annet enn nok en skamplett på deres rulleblad, derfor denne nedtrappingen av den.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Posada_Carriles

Hovedkanalen for Cubas handelvirksomhet, Guantanamo Bay, er passende nok okkupert av USA og brukt til å torturere ulovlige fanger, alt i strid med Genevkonvensjonen, Verdensretten, FN, og Nurnberg Traktatene. Altså alt av internasjonal lov.

Første jeg fant når jeg søkte på terror mot Cuba var denne listen over terror orkestrert fra "USA" 1990-2000 (følgelig bare en fraksjon):

1990
October 14.- Armed infiltration by Northern Santa Cruz
1991
September 17.- Terrorist counter revolutionary infiltration
December 29.- Armed infiltration near Cárdenas city.
1992
July 4.- Attempt to attack goals placed at Havana's coasts.
July.- Failure of armed infiltration attempt
September 9.- "Tony Bryant" is arrested by the FBI from L Commands
October 7.- Armed attack from the sea against Meliá Varadero hotel
October 19.- Armed terrorist infiltration by Carbó beach at Yagajuay
1993
January.- A PUND expedition is arrested by the Coast Guards Service
April 2.- The "Mikonos" ship tank is attacked with machine guns seven miles at the northern side of Matanzas.
May 18 .-the plane " Brothers to the Rescue" violates the Cuban air space
May 21.- An armed group is arrested by the Custom Service Group in its travel to Cuba.
May - The Mafia leader , José Basulto informs about the terrorist plan against Cuba.
July 26. - The Secret Armed Army Plan fails to attack goals against Cuba.
August 21.- King Judge underestimates charges against the arrested in May
August .The so called Cuba-21 Movement plans to spread propaganda about Cuba.The so called Cuba-21 Movement plans to spread propaganda about Cuba.
September.- Released by King Judge , the arrested in January
October.- José Basulto´s calling to the Cuban young people and to the population as a whole, to carry out terrorist actions.
October 18.-The terrorist mercenary , Mario García Rubalcaba is arrested
1994
At the beginning of the year.- FNCA executives organize an attempt plan against the Commander in Chief, Fidel Castro.
Februay 6.- Command Group arrested by North American naval authorities , that was attempting to infiltrate in Cuba.
February 25 .- Flight of the plane "Brothers to the Rescue" near Cuba to interfere policy radio.
Mach 11..-Armed attack against "Guitart Hotel" at Coco key.-Armed attack against "Guitart Hotel" at Coco key.
June 2.-Two members of the terrorist organization : F-4 Commands , arrested
June 8.- FBI dismounts secret camp of the terrorist organization FBI dismounts secret camp of the terrorist organization
August 20.- Flight of four planes near the Cuban coasts
September 4 .-Armed infiltration by Caibarién, Villa Clara
October 6.- Armed attack against "Guitart Hotel" at Coco key
October 15.- Landing with plans of going to the mountains by Caibarién, Villa Clara
October.-Training begins to carry out sabotage against the oil refineryTraining begins to carry out sabotage against the oil refinery
November.- Plans to Attempt against the Commander in Chief , Fidel Ca Plans to Attempt against the Commander in Chief , Fidel Castro
November 2.- FBI arrested in Miami, personnel attempting to set fire in a donation warehouse for Cuba. FBI arrested in Miami, personnel attempting to set fire in a donation warehouse for Cuba.
November 11.- .Armed infiltration near Varadero, Matanzas.
1995
January.- The head of the organization of "Brothers to the Rescue" , José Basulto, tried to agglutinate terrorist organizations to introduce weapons and explosives in Cuba.
February March .- FNCA gives instructions for the goal study in Cuba , to carry out terrorist actions.
March 2.- Terrorist infiltration by Puerto Padre, Las Tunas.
March 8.-Exit of people , then they returned to the national territory with false passports .
April 18.- The murderer Leonel Macías was left free in Miami by an Immigration Appeal Board.
May 20. The "Guitart Hotel " at Coco Key, at Ciego de Avila was attacked again , from a quick craft.
July 12.- Three members of PUND are arrested by the FBI, when they were going to infiltrate in Cuba. They were released.
September 2. Again a "Fleet" sails to Cuba but it fails when one of the crafts sank.
December 16.-. Members of the Terrorist Organization at Los Angeles , were arrested by the FBI, they had plans to infiltrate in Cuba.
December 29.- Two Cubans were released , who were in jail for having stolen a craft at Havana Port.
1996
January 12.- The emigrate, Cecilio Reynoso was arrested in Cuba, with 900 grams of C-4 explosives and detonation electric devices.
January 13.- Plains of "Brothers to the Rescue" violate again the Cuban air space.
January 18 . Federal authorities withdraw the charges against the arrested on December 16.
January 23.- A group is being arrested by the USA's customs that were leading themselves to Cuba with weapons. They were released that same day without bail.
February 11.- A PUND team was intercepted by Coast Guards , the group had shooting against hotels orientations.
February 24.- Withdrawal of two planes of "Brothers to the Rescue" when they violated the Cuban air space. Withdrawal of two planes of "Brothers to the Rescue" when they violated the Cuban air space.
April 7.- F-4 Commands starts a campaign in favor of the liberation of terrorists in jail at USA.
July.- A bomb is thrown at the "Centro Vasco" , Miami , where the Cuban Vedette , Rosita Fornés was going to act.
August 1.-A bomb is thrown in the offices of the agency "Cuba Travels"
August 21.- The North American terrorist , Walter Van Der Veer is arrested in Cuba
September 16.- Armed infiltration produced in Punta Alegre, Ciego de Avila.
October.-A terrorist plan is known by means of which , air devices , guided at distance , were going to be used to throw them full of explosives against goals in Cuba.
October 21.- A plane , property of the Department of USA spreads a substance with Thrip Palmi Karny plague at Matanzas Province.
December.- North American authorities intercept an armed group willing to carry out an operation against Cuba.
1997
April 12.- Explosion of middle intensity at the "Ache" Discotheque of Melia Cohiba, hotel.
April 30 .-Another explosive device is deactivated at the 15 floor of Meliá Cohiba , hotel.
May 24.- A strong explosion at "Cubanacán enterprise offices", in Mexico.
July 12.- Two devices exploit at National and Capri hotels, at Havana.
August 3.- A small explosion at Havanatur offices , in Nassau, Bahamas.
August 4 .- A bomb exploits at the lobby of Meliá Cohiba, hotel
August 11.- FNCA publishes in the Miami press , a support declaration in favor of the terrorist actions that were occurring in Cuba.
August 22.- A small potent bomb exploits at "Sol Palmeras" hotel, at Varadero beach.
September 4.- Detonations were experienced at "Tritón" , "Copacabana" and "Chateau Miramar" . the author was arrested that same day.
October 19.- Explosive device is discovered in a "Transtur" micro bus.
In 1997.-Luis Posada Carriles with FNCA executives organize an attempt plan against the Commander in Chief , Fidel Castro, to be carried out at the "Margarita island" during the VII Iberian American Summit.
October 30.- A explosive device is found under a sale stand at the international airport "José Martí"
1998
March 4.- Two citizens from Guatemala, are arrested who were willing to place four explosive devices
March 20.- the gangster element and spouse of one of the arrested women on March 4, participating in the action.
April 5.-Armed infiltration by the North of Matanzas
May 16.- Armed infiltration near Santa Lucía , Pinar del Río
August.- Before the announced visit of the Cuban President , Fidel Castro to the Dominican Republic, plans were thought to attempt against his life.
October 10.- A terrorist Salvadoran is arrested at the international airport "José Martí" with plastic explosives.
2000
November 17.- Four terrorists were detained by Panamanian authorities that were preparing an attempt against the Commander in Chief , Fidel Castro.

Forøvrig direkte komisk hvordan du fremstiller det som om det er Cuba som kryper tilbake til kapitalismen, da Cuba aldri har ønsket eller vært tjent med en handelsblokkade. Hvordan du resonerer må gudene vite.

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Atle Kristiansen

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There are many other illustrations of US principles that are well established, internally rational, clear enough to the victims, but not perceptible to their agents in Washington. To mention one, the US Treasury bureau the Office of Foreign Assets Control (Ofac) is assigned the task of investigating suspicious financial transfers, and is a crucial component of the ‘war on terror’. Ofac has 120 employees. Several weeks ago it informed Congress that four of these are dedicated to tracking the finances of Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, while almost two dozen are dedicated to enforcing the US’s embargo against Cuba (something that has been declared illegal, incidentally, by every relevant international organisation – even the usually compliant Organization of American States). From 1990 to 2003, Ofac informed Congress, there were 93 terrorism-related investigations resulting in $9,000 worth of fines, and 11,000 Cuba-related investigations resulting in $8m of fines. No interest was aroused among those now pondering whether the Bush administration – and its predecessors – downgraded the war on terror in favour of other priorities.

Why should the US Treasury devote vastly more energy to strangling Cuba than to the war on terror? The basic reasons were explained in secret documents from 40 years ago, when the Kennedy administration sought to bring ‘the terrors of the earth’ to Cuba, as Arthur Schlesinger recounted in his biography of Robert Kennedy, who ran these terror operations as his highest priority. State Department planners warned that the ‘very existence’ of the Castro regime was ‘successful defiance’ of US policies. Furthermore, this successful defiance encouraged others, who might be infected by the ‘Castro idea of taking matters into their own hands’. These dangers were particularly grave, Schlesinger elaborated, when ‘the distribution of land and other forms of national wealth greatly favours the propertied classes… The poor and underprivileged, stimulated by the example of the Cuban revolution, are now demanding opportunities for a decent living’. The whole system of domination might unravel if the idea of taking matters into one’s own hands got a hold.
Lite utdrag fra en artikkel langt mer interessant enn VG.

http://www.redpepper.org.uk/July2004/x-July2004-chomsky.html
 

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Hvorfor må Castro forfølge homofile og nekte sitt kjære folk de enkleste menneskerettigheter som ytringsfrihet og frihet til å reise? Vil nok en gang anbefale deg filmen "de andres liv". Lærerikt, spesielt for én som beundrer diktaturet og den sterke mann.
 
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BBking skrev:
Hvorfor må Castro forfølge homofile og nekte sitt kjære folk de enkleste menneskerettigheter som ytringsfrihet og frihet til å reise? Vil nok en gang anbefale deg filmen "de andres liv". Lærerikt, spesielt for én som beundrer diktaturet og den sterke mann.
Mye galt på Cuba, spesielt når det gjelder borgernes rettingheter til å ytre seg kritisk eller danne organisasjoner. Men det ser ikke ut som om homofile og lesbiske har det spesielt ille på Cuba. De sliter nok mer i den mer i andre deler av latin amerika som Jamaica og Nicaragua

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Cuba

Sexual relations between same-sex consenting adults sixteen and over have been legal in Cuba since 1992, though same-sex relationships are not presently recognised by the state.

In 2003, Carlos Sanchez from the International Lesbian and Gay Association issued a report on the status of gay people in Cuba that claimed that the Cuban government no longer offers any legal punishment for its gay citizens, that there is a greater level of tolerance among Cubans for gay and transgender people, and that the Cuban government was open to endorsing a gay rights plank at the United Nations.
 
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