DSD/DSF/DSDIFF via PC/MAC [SACD Ripping]

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    Dette er nok formater for de mer interesserte av oss, men nå er jo også dette et entusiastforum ;)

    Direct-Stream Digital (DSD) is the trademark name used by Sony and Philips for their system of recreating audible signals which uses pulse-density modulation encoding, a technology to store audio signals on digital storage media which is used for the Super Audio CD (SACD).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Stream_Digital

    Musikk

    Vel, svært begrenset.

    Her er en oversikt som Sony har samlet:

    http://www.ps3sacd.com/dsd_downloads.html

    Software

    Foobar med DSDIFF Decoder

    http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_input_dsdiff

    HQPlayer

    http://www.signalyst.com/consumer.html

    Korg AudioGate

    Konverterer DSD on-the-fly (til PCM) så disse kan spilles av via lydkortet/dac'en som er tilknyttet maskinen.

    http://www.korguser.net/audiogate/en/index.html

    Hardware

    Ikke mye her heller. Mytek ser ut til å komme en DSD DAC i april.



    http://ralaudio.com/mytek-stereo192dsd-dac-24-bit-192-khz-dsd-dac-preorder-now-p-4306.html

    In comes MYTEK DIGITAL, the US leading manufacturer of digital audio converters, with its new DAC. Aside from basic capabilities of handling hi-rez PCM files (up to 24/192), it will be a first device letting you play native DSD files directly from your hard drive, "with absolute state of the art accuracy and transparency". Mytek has not yet revealed if the device will support both DSD 2.8MHz and 5.6MHz files (although already available Mytek A/D converters offer support for both sampling speeds).
    http://puresuperaudio.blogspot.com/2010/08/mytek-digital-usa-to-unlock-dsd-files.html

    Playback Designs

    http://www.playbackdesigns.com/mpd3.html

    DIY

    http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digital-source/177336-usb-dsd-dac-adc-electrart.html

    Noen som har utforsket dette?

    Hadde det bare eksistert en SACD ripper 1:1 så kunne dette vært et meget spennende felt innen hires.

    Edit: Se neste innlegg
     

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    SACD ripping using your PS3 & Linux, yes!

    Direct SACD ripping possible? Yes! After browsing these forums and reading all the information I knew I didn't want buy a HDMI -> PCM converter, and wanted a direct fast DSD/DST ripping solution..

    As I found out the Playstation 3 is actually able to RAW read SACDs. And after making some raw dumps of my SACDs on my Linux PS3 I knew it could be done and was ready to really dive into this. I quickly found out that most of the SACDs do not contain the UDF filesystem (so cannot be mounted) but have a couple of table of content pointing to the master DST/DSD file (2 or multi channel master file).

    For now I've reverse engineered all the necessary information from these TOCs and I've written a program which outputs this information (my program directly accepts the bluray /dev/sr0 device). I've also made a simple test which dumps the tracks from the master to the Philips DSDIFF 1.5 spec format. (I'll make this code including DST conversion available soon..).

    In case you are interested, here is my todo:
    http://sacd-ripper.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/todo

    ScarletBook information:
    http://code.google.com/p/sacd-ripper/wiki/ScarletBook

    And project page:
    http://sacd-ripper.googlecode.com

    btw. I'm not in favor of ripping and distributing.. I'm also an audiophile with Mark Levinson, NBS cable and Sonus Faber Amatis. And yes I still buy 6 cd's a month, which I'll continue to do.. But I want to be able to make proper backups of my SACD collection and really move away from CDs in general.


    http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/showthread.php/32607-SACD-playback-into-Generic-2ch-DAC/page3

    :eek:
     

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    Hvor lenge var Adam i paradis?

    be patient..
    I'm sorry to say I need more time, I reversed the TOCs, etc.. and was under the impression the data I saw was DST encoded, it wasn't. So I've given you false information, the data is still encrypted.
    *grin*

    Status:

    Med 1 gen PS3 får man tatt en raw dump av plata, man er ikke helt der enda der man kan ta ut lyd fra denne fila.
     

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    Ring meg når du har knekt koden, Morten! 8)
     

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    Her er det også meget spennende ting på gang:

    Just to show a little proof that I'm truly bypassing PSP (making it a useless protection system): here's the TOC files from the Dark Side of the Moon SACD. http://www.sendspace.com/file/fbkbqw Open them with notepad to see the info inside. (The SACD format has album and artist and track info included - aka 'SACD Text').

    And here are screenshots of the file extracting process and the extracted files (including the glorious 2CH and MCH DSD files): 1, 2, 3, 4

    This is from the current working DVD drive method, not the PS3 method.

    And two more, to cement the proof: TOCs and screenshots for Marvin Gaye Let's Get It On. And Getz/Gilberto.
    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=19882773#post19882773

    Så får vi se om dette er troll eller fakta.
     
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    Jeg vedder US$ 0.02 på at dette hadde vært knekt for lenge siden om det var noe mer sentralt det gjald, f.eks om verden var skrudd slik sammen at siste skrik innen 3D-skytespill ble distribuert på SACD-plater;) Men det ser jo ut som fyren er på vei.
     

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    Oi!!

    "This software makes use of the PS3 and gives you the option to backup your precious SACDs to a 1:1 decrypted ISO or you can choose to extract the individual tracks to DSDIFF (DFF) or DSF which allows you to create a DSD disc."

    http://code.google.com/p/sacd-ripper/

    --- Installation ---

    Make sure you have a PS3 model with SACD compatible player. For more information
    on what model specifically go to: http://ps3sacd.com/faq.html#_Toc180147566

    You need to install a custom firmware to be able to rip SACDs. At this time of
    writing the PS3 firmware has not been cracked for firmware 3.56 and upwards. So
    in order to install the correct firmware you'll have to make sure your firmware
    is lower or equal to 3.55. A downgrade for a firmware higher than 3.55 is NOT
    available.

    The custom firmware that is needed must be 3.55 and should incorporate the ever
    so important LV1 patch to allow access to the System Manager services of GameOS.
    A firmware which incorporates that is the OtherOS++ firmware. More information
    and download links can be found here: http://gitbrew.org/otheros/

    Custom Firmware installation steps:

    1: Plug a USB stick into your computer
    2: Create a folder in the root of the USB stick called PS3
    3: Create a folder inside the PS3 folder called UPDATE
    4: Download the 3.55 OtherOS++ firmware (http://gitbrew.org/otheros/)
    5: Move PS3UPDAT.PUP to the directory UPDATE that you just created on the USB
    stick
    6: Plug the USB stick into your PS3
    7: Navigate to Settings Tab
    8: Choose System Update
    9: Choose Update via Storage Media
    10: It will say it found Version 3.55
    11: Choose OK
    12: Accept Conditions and Follow the instructions

    If the steps above did not work for you, then you are probably on 3.55 already.
    You will have to do a recovery menu mode installation:

    1: Plug a USB stick into your computer
    2: Create a folder in the root of the USB stick called PS3
    3: Create a folder inside the PS3 folder called UPDATE
    4: Download the 3.55 OtherOS++ firmware (http://gitbrew.org/otheros/)
    5: Move PS3UPDAT.PUP to the directory UPDATE that you just created on the USB
    stick
    6: Plug the USB stick into your PS3
    7: Power down the PS3 through the menu
    8: Now press and HOLD the power button, the system will startup and shutdown
    again
    9: Release the power button, then press & HOLD power again, you'll hear one
    beep
    followed by two consecutive beeps
    10: Release power then follow the on-screen instructions. You're now in the
    recovery menu
    11: Connect the USB device and select "System Update."
    12: Accept Conditions and Follow the instructions

    -- Installation Instructions --

    Now you've completed the OtherOS firmware upgrade you are ready to install
    sacd-ripper.pkg.

    In order for the PS3 BluRay player to authenticate the SACD disc and to decode
    DST to DSD two SPU isoself modules will be extracted from the system. In order
    to do so you must give the SACD-Ripper the PS3 keys so it can extract them
    automatically.

    Get the PS3 keys from http://git-hacks.com/ps3free/ps3keys and put these in the
    root of an USB disc. They will be asked for during first time installation,
    after that you can remove the keys from your USB disc.

    -- Build Instructions --

    To compile you will need the psl1ght suite. If you want to compile on a windows
    environment I advice you to follow the CygWin installation as the MingW
    installation is unstable.

    When psl1ght has been properly setup you need to configure SACD-Ripper with the
    following commands:

    1. svn checkout http://sacd-ripper.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ sacd-ripper
    2. cd sacd-ripper
    3. sh configure
    4. make

    SACD-Ripper should compile without errors and warnings. Once completed you
    should have the sacd-ripper.pkg package that can be installed on your PS3.

    To compile the Windows scarletbook tool:
    1. Open the Visual Studio Command prompt
    2. Change directory to libs\libiconv
    3. run: "nmake -f Makefile.msvc NO_NLS=1"
    4. now you can compile using the MSVC project file

    -- Information --

    SACD-Ripper supports the following output formats:

    - 2ch DSDIFF (DSD)
    - 2ch DSDIFF (DST) (if already DST encoded)
    - 2ch DSF (DSD)
    - mch DSDIFF (DSD)
    - mch DSDIFF (DST)
    - mch DSF (DSD)
    - ISO (due to the 4GB FAT32 size limit on the PS3, files will be splitted when
    larger)

    At this time of writing both Saracon and Audiogate do not support DST encoded
    files. Audiogate only supports 2ch files and Saracon does not support DSF
    files. Please keep that in mind before selecting your file output.


    There seems to be a SACD BluRay read speed limit that sets the maximum read
    speed to 2.6MB/sec, yes I agree, this is slow! But DST decoding is even
    slower.. The PS3 GameOS has 6 SPUs available for user operations. SACD-Ripper
    uses 1 SPU for decryption and the other 5!! for DST decoding. Although this
    process is quite optimal the current decoding speed has been measured to
    be 0.9MB/sec for a 2 channel rip. So for 2ch DST tracks the write speed to disc
    will be around 2.3MB/sec, for a multi-channel the write speed is a bit higher
    at 2.4MB.sec but decoding is even slower at 0.6MB/sec.
     

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    Du verden. Tampen brenner!
    Dette ser litt for heftig ut for meg, men forhåpentligvis kommer den en mer lettbetjent metode etterhvert.

    Jeg skal med glede kjøpe en drøss SACDer dersom jeg kan rippe de til PCM 24/176.4 (eller 352.8) for avspilling på min PHASURE NOS1 DAC.
     
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    Fascinerende rent nerdemessig (mye smarte folk rundtomkring...) men med en slik fremgangsmåte og spesifikke krav til hardware (PS3 med ikke for ny firmware) så er dette for spesielt interesserte og knapt nok det. Men får se om fyren/noen andre kommer frem til en enklere måte etter hvert. Med en rippetid på 2.6MB/sek maks så vil det også ta sin tid.

    Datakapasiteten på en SACD-plate er 7.95GB, så i verste fall tar det da 51 minutter å rippe en plate. Hvor fulle SACD-plater pleier å være aner jeg dog ikke.
     

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    Jeg har feil PS3, men jeg skal starte med å patche den jeg har til 3.55, kompilere koden og se om den i det hele tatt kjører på min utgave - så tar vi det derifra.
     
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    mteinum skrev:
    Jeg har feil PS3, men jeg skal starte med å patche den jeg har til 3.55, kompilere koden og se om den i det hele tatt kjører på min utgave - så tar vi det derifra.
    Da noterer vi en spesielt interessert;)

    Skulle prøvd selv for sportens skyld om tid hadde vært et mindre knapt gode.
     

    pedal

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    Morten er i spiss på hi-rez PC-lyd. Lønner seg å henge i skjørtene på han! 8)
     
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    Gjest
    Dette så jo svært overkommelig ut sånn rent softwaremessig for min del i hverfall. Største problemet er vel å skaffe en PS3 med firmware 3.55 eller eldre, noe som betyr å kjøpe brukt vil jeg tro? Hadde vært jæskla artig å teste, jeg har jo noen hybrid SACD skiver.....
     
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    Gikk verdien på min PS3 som ikke har vært oppdatert på leeeenge plutelig i været nå?
     

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    mteinum skrev:
    Oi!!

    "This software makes use of the PS3 and gives you the option to backup your precious SACDs to a 1:1 decrypted ISO or you can choose to extract the individual tracks to DSDIFF (DFF) or DSF which allows you to create a DSD disc."
    Oi Oi, jeg er glad du er den du er.... ;D
     

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    NEVATON skrev:
    nb skrev:
    Gikk verdien på min PS3 som ikke har vært oppdatert på leeeenge plutelig i været nå?
    ;D ;D ;D ;D
    Sålenge du har firmware 3.55 eller lavere, mja.. 3.56 og nyere så får du ikke nedgradert - og den er ubrukelig til dette formålet.

    Min er oppdatert til 3.66, så den kan jeg stort sett bare bruke til å se blu-ray og spille på.
     
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    Gjest
    Skal sjekke firmwaren på min - dersom den er gammel nok og noen er svært interessert i å prøve dette men sitter på for ny firmware så kan vi sikkert bytte.
     

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    mteinum skrev:
    NEVATON skrev:
    nb skrev:
    Gikk verdien på min PS3 som ikke har vært oppdatert på leeeenge plutelig i været nå?
    ;D ;D ;D ;D
    Sålenge du har firmware 3.55 eller lavere, mja.. 3.56 og nyere så får du ikke nedgradert - og den er ubrukelig til dette formålet.

    Min er oppdatert til 3.66, så den kan jeg stort sett bare bruke til å se blu-ray og spille på.
    Svartens spillmaskiner, de tar ingen hensyn til nerdeting.
     

    mteinum

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    Ja, huff :D

    Her fant jeg noe som virker lovende:

    PS3 SUPPORT:

    The first work to be done is to allow our users to flash directly the PS3 BIOS by USB. So no more problem with firmwares, you can install everything you want, when you want. All the complications due to firmware versions that cannot be downgraded will not bother you anymore.

    Another new feature that we want to add is a REAL TIME patching of the firmware part that you want to be emulated from the chip. Being the 512Kb flash not enough to store a real dual firmware, we'll have to wait for the first hacked firmware to understand if a "realtime" patching will be possible. In case we won't be able to find more ideas, a new version of Infectus with a memory expantion bay will be released


    http://www.ozmodchips.com/infectus-2-multi-platform-development-toolmodchip-p-136.html
    http://www.ps3hax.net/2011/06/phat-ps3-firmware-3-6x-downgrade-via-infectus-waninkoko-brick-fix/

    Jeg må si Sony har ikke helt forstått dette med brukervennlighet.
     
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    Jeg har firmware 3.56 så da utgår tilbudet mitt. Hadde jeg ikke spillt siste Modern Warfare da det kom hadde jeg sittet på tilstrekkelig gammel firmware. Jaja, jeg har uansett ikke så mange SACD-plater at det ville vært veldig interessant for min del utover å sjekke om det funket.
     

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    Her en howto:


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    | "SACD ripping HOWTO" :: [2011-07-04 12:43PM] |
    | author: Jeremy Malcolm |
    | |
    | Super Audio CDs (SACDs) were a next-generation CD format, capable of much |
    | higher fidelity as well as 5.1 channel surround sound... and unlike |
    | regular CDs, designed to be impossible to rip. Although a handful of disks |
    | and players are still being sold, the format has been a failure, mainly |
    | because the CD format wasn't broken to begin with, except for audiophiles |
    | and record companies. |
    | |
    | Since my SACD player was my early-model PlayStation 3, which has already |
    | broken once, I needed to rip my SACD music into a more durable format. |
    | Also, I wanted to be able to listen to it in 5.1 channels which I hadn't |
    | been able to do before now, because my tuner only has an optical audio |
    | connection, and the PlayStation demands an HDMI connection for playing |
    | multi-channel audio. |
    | |
    | Luckily, ripping music from SACDs has just become possible. This tutorial |
    | will teach you not only how to rip your files from SACD, but also how to |
    | play them in multi-channel format without the need for any expensive |
    | audiophile hardware or software. What you need is: |
    | |
    | * A PlayStation 3 model CECHAxx, CECHBxx, CECHCxx or CECHExx, released in |
    | 2006 or 2007. See if you can find one on eBay. |
    | * Said PlayStation must be running firmware version 3.55 or 3.41 - which |
    | means that you won't be able to use it on Sony's PlayStation Network. |
    | Unfortunately, downgrading the firmware is not currently possible. |
    | * A modified unofficial version of that same firmware called OtherOS++. |
    | * SACD Ripper. Unless you want to compile your own binary, you can |
    | download a precompiled one here. |
    | * The PS3's root keys, which are needed the first time you run SACD Ripper. |
    | * DSDConverter (this is for Mac OS X, I'm not sure about other platforms). |
    | * FFmpeg and MPlayer (for any operating system). |
    | |
    | The first step is to install the OtherOS++ firmware. To do this: |
    | |
    | 1. Copy the OtherOS++ firmware file that you downloaded to a USB memory |
    | stick as /PS3/UPDATE/PS3UPDAT.PUP. |
    | 2. While your PS3 is off, press and hold the power button until it turns |
    | on then turns off again. |
    | 3. Press and hold the power button again until the PS3 beeps, then leave |
    | it held down until it beeps twice more. |
    | 4. You are now in the PS3 recovery menu. Plug in your USB stick, select |
    | System Update and follow the instructions. |
    | |
    | Now install and run SACD Ripper. |
    | |
    | 1. Copy it to a USB memory stick, and insert that into the PS3. |
    | 2. Go to the PS3's game menu and you'll see "Install package files". |
    | It should find the SACD Ripper package, so select it and install. |
    | 3. Unzip the PS3 root keys package that you downloaded to the root of a |
    | USB stick. Run SACD Ripper and insert the USB stick when it prompts you |
    | for the root key files. |
    | |
    | You're now all set to perform your first rip. |
    | |
    | 1. Insert an SACD. SACD Ripper should recognise it. |
    | 2. Insert a large capacity USB device. SACD Ripper under-states the size |
    | required, and won't warn you if your device isn't big enough. As a |
    | rough guide, a multi-channel SACD of about ten tracks needs about an |
    | 8Gb device. External hard drives are usually quicker than USB sticks. |
    | 3. Press the circle key to change the format in which the SACD is ripped. |
    | We want either DSDIFF (DSD) or DSF (DSD). The sound quality is the same |
    | no matter which of these you choose. However do take care that if your |
    | SACD is multi-channel (not all are), you choose one of the "mch" |
    | formats, not "2ch". |
    | |
    | Since you are not an audiophile, you don't have any software capable of |
    | playing the DSD format directly, so we'll need to convert it to an |
    | ordinary PCM (eg. WAV) file. This is what DSDConverter is for. To use it: |
    | |
    | 1. Move the USB device to your Mac. |
    | 2. Run DSDConverter and open the first ripped track. Choose WAV as the |
    | file format and 24 as the bit depth (or 16 to economise on file size). |
    | 3. The setting for sample rate is a bit more complex. If you want to be |
    | able to compress it to a reasonable size (10-15Mb) later, you need a |
    | sample rate of 44.1 Khz, which is no better than CD quality. If you are |
    | unhappy with that, but don't mind a file at least ten times larger, you |
    | will have to stay in WAV format, and choose whatever sample rate you |
    | like (176.4 should be enough, though). |
    | 3. Click Start and make yourself a tea or coffee. |
    | |
    | Next we will compress the file into an AC-3 file, which is a good |
    | compressed format for multi-channel audio (another alternative is |
    | multi-channel MP3, but this isn't so widely supported). It's exactly the |
    | same Dolby Digital format that you get on DVDs. We're going to use FFmpeg |
    | for this. |
    | |
    | 1. From the command line, type "ffmpeg -i [file.wav] -ab 320 [file.ac3]". |
    | Of course, replace the parts in square brackets with the actual names |
    | for your input and output files - but you must include .ac3 as the |
    | extension for your output file, so FFmpeg knows what format to use. |
    | 2. The "-ab" setting is the bitrate. Note that this is not the same as the |
    | sample rate! It controls how compressed the file will be. 320 is the |
    | same bitrate used on DVDs, so should be good enough for most people, |
    | but feel free to experiment. |
    | |
    | Finally, how do you play this file? Here is where your mileage will vary. |
    | In my case, I have a computer running Ubuntu hooked up to my sound system, |
    | and it decodes AC3 audio in hardware. So I need to play the AC3 file |
    | without my computer decoding it first. The command line that I use is: |
    | |
    | pasuspender -- mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=1,0 -ac hwac3 [file.ac3] |
    | |
    | Breaking this down: |
    | |
    | 1. pasuspender tells Ubuntu's PulseAudio sound system not to interfere with |
    | MPlayer, since PulseAudio doesn't yet support AC-3 passthrough. |
    | 2. -- is just a separator to tell pasuspender that what follows is the |
    | command I want to execute without interference from PulseAudio. |
    | 3. The -ao option to MPlayer specifies the audio output device, which will |
    | certainly be different on your system to mine. Use "aplay -l" to find |
    | out what it is on your system. |
    | 4. The -ac option tells MPlayer that we want to play the file using |
    | hardware AC-3 decoding. |
    | |
    | There are a few ripped files that MPlayer hasn't been able to play, and |
    | I'm not sure why, since they play fine (but in stereo) using other |
    | multimedia players such as Totem. But most files play very nicely. |
    | |
    | So it was a bit of a marathon, but I can now hear my SACDs in all their |
    | multi-channel glory for the first time, and they sound great! If you run |
    | into trouble with the above procedure, feel free to drop me a note and |
    | I'll try to help you out. |
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    | UPDATE: Read the comment below for some improvements to this HOWTO. |
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    Så, ja. Det er nå mulig å rippe SACD - trenger bare en PS3 av riktig type.
     
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    Ryktene tilsier at det allerede finnes DSDIFF filer på diverse ulumske adresser på nettet.... så noen har oppdaget og testet dette tydeligvis! :)
     

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    Da fikk jeg prøvd en slik ISO Sacd rip. Brukte Foobar 2000 og pakket den ut og konverterte den til 24/176khz Aiff.
    Brukte foo input sacd.dll plugin til foobar. Dette gjør at du bare kan laste inn .iso filen direkte i programmet uten å trenge og pakke ut filene for avspilling om du bruker Foobar for avspilling.
    Pass på og sette bitraten riktig i programmet før du avspiller filene.
    Kvaliteten syntes jeg ble knallbra !
     

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    johnnygrandis skrev:
    Da fikk jeg prøvd en slik ISO Sacd rip. Brukte Foobar 2000 og pakket den ut og konverterte den til 24/176khz Aiff.
    Spennende!

    Har Foobar en "lagre til harddisk" funksjon av den konverterte filen? Du konverterte fra 1-bit til Aiff, mens jeg ønsker å lagre til WAV.
     

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    Jepp etter å ha lastet .ISO filen inn i programmet merker jeg alle låtene og høyreklikker og > konverter til, Wav er visstnok også støttet. Pass på og sette bitraten og Khz riktig først. Du må også legge plugin sacd.dll filen i riktig systemappe først.
     

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    grandis: hvorfor 176 og ikke 192?
    pedal: hvorfor i alle dager wav??

    Hmmm... har jo noen single layer SACDer som sikkert kan byttes mot 24/192 rip av de samme?
    ;D ;D ;D
     

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    RoDa skrev:
    grandis: hvorfor 176 og ikke 192?
    pedal: hvorfor i alle dager wav??

    Hmmm... har jo noen single layer SACDer som sikkert kan byttes mot 24/192 rip av de samme?
    ;D ;D ;D
    Jeg har ikke vært gjennom ovennenvte prosess enda, men jeg antar at den .iso fila må konverteres/lagres i et PCM format før den kan avspilles i Foobar.

    Jeg bruker WAV som standard filformat i min musikksamling. Har også noen album i flac.
     

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    RoDa skrev:
    grandis: hvorfor 176 og ikke 192?
    pedal: hvorfor i alle dager wav??

    Hmmm... har jo noen single layer SACDer som sikkert kan byttes mot 24/192 rip av de samme?
    ;D ;D ;D
    He he, valget fantes ikke i Foobar. Kun 176khz.
     

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    pedal skrev:
    RoDa skrev:
    grandis: hvorfor 176 og ikke 192?
    pedal: hvorfor i alle dager wav??

    Hmmm... har jo noen single layer SACDer som sikkert kan byttes mot 24/192 rip av de samme?
    ;D ;D ;D
    Jeg har ikke vært gjennom ovennenvte prosess enda, men jeg antar at den .iso fila må konverteres/lagres i et PCM format før den kan avspilles i Foobar.
    Slik har jeg også skjønt det.
     

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    RoDa skrev:
    Hmmm... har jo noen single layer SACDer som sikkert kan byttes mot 24/192 rip av de samme?
    ;D ;D ;D

    Hmmm.......ingen som som har en PS3 med riktig firmware og selge da ?? ;D
     

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    johnnygrandis skrev:
    Hmmm.......ingen som som har en PS3 med riktig firmware og selge da ?? ;D
    Det er solgt "noen millioner" PlayStation bokser. Mange av disse har trolig ikke gjort den firmware oppgraderingen.
    At disse gamle boksene har en merverdi for oss audiofile er en nerdeting som ikke påvirker bruktprisen nevneverdig.

    Kanskje noen her på Sentralen som har en PS3 liggende og slenge med firmware 3.55 eller lavere?



    EDIT: v3.50 ble sluppet så sent som i september 2010. Det øker mulighetene for å finne maskiner som ikke har vært oppgradert siste året.

    EDIT2: PS3 har en oppegående hjemmeside som stadig poster om utviklingen innenfor SACD og andre hirez medier. Både hardware og software. Den bør dere linke.
    Her er en oversikt over hvilke PS3 spiller som takler SACD og hvilke som ikke gjør det. Link: http://www.ps3sacd.com/ps3hardware.html

    Linken til Johnny angir følgende maskiner:
    * A PlayStation 3 model CECHAxx, CECHBxx, CECHCxx or CECHExx, released in 2006 or 2007. See if you can find one on eBay.
    * Said PlayStation must be running firmware version 3.55 or 3.41
     
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    pedal skrev:
    Det er solgt "noen millioner" PlayStation bokser. Mange av disse har trolig ikke gjort den firmware oppgraderingen.
    At disse gamle boksene har en merverdi for oss audiofile er en nerdeting som ikke påvirker bruktprisen nevneverdig.

    Kanskje noen her på Sentralen som har en PS3 liggende og slenge med firmware 3.55 eller lavere?

    EDIT: v3.50 ble sluppet så sent som i september 2010. Det øker mulighetene for å finne maskiner som ikke har vært oppgradert siste året.
    Finnes nok en del som står og støver ned, men det er temmelig automatisk med oppdatering så lenge PS3en er koblet på nettverk, så av de som faktisk er i bruk er det neppe veldig mange som ikke er oppgraderte.

    Burde dog være greit å grave frem et eksemplar.
     
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