Atlas shrugged - Part 1. Release date: APRIL 15, 2011

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Helt til det blir utsatt igjen da. Lol, 53 years in the making :).

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Atlas shrugged - Release date: APRIL 15, 2011

Kongebok endelig filmet?!!
 

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Atlas shrugged - Release date: APRIL 15, 2011

Henry "Hank" Rearden:

 

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Atlas shrugged - Release date: APRIL 15, 2011

Håper vi slipper den 70 sider lange talen.
 

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Atlas shrugged - Release date: APRIL 15, 2011

Slipper vel det i del 1 av triologien.
Hvem som etterhvert skal gi en (forhåpentligvis veldig) forkortet versjon, er vel ikke røpt ennå.

Mener å huske at regissøren skal ta på seg rollen noen korte øyeblikk i del 1, med ryggen mot kamera.

Håper hun som spiller Dagny, kan virke mer bestemt og direkte, enn inntrykket en får av bildene.
 

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The trailer is live:




ØivindJ skrev:
Håper hun som spiller Dagny, kan virke mer bestemt og direkte, enn inntrykket en får av bildene.
Ble ikke mindre skeptisk :-\
 
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Jeg har noen ganske stramme oppfatninger omkring den boken, betydningen den har fått for den amerikanske Tea Party bevegelsen, og hva bokens popularitet betyr.
Dersom du inviterer til debatt stiller jeg.

Ellers må jeg tilstå at den traileren virket tam?
 

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Inviterer deg til å dele dine synspunkter i denne tråden.

Noe særlig debatt blir det nok ikke, da det er greit å se de mange problemene med å dra en slik filosofi for langt. Boken er fullstendig svart/hvit, med null gråsone. En skulle tro det fantes bedre måter for forfatteren å gjøre sine poeng på.

Men det blir artig å få sett den(og de to neste) i alle fall. Selv om traileren virket noe tam, ja.
 
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Det er vel mer et manifest enn en roman, og det er vanskelig å filme manifest på underholdende vis. Spesielt siden dialogen i bøkene brukes til å kommunisere manifestet - er vel kun blant APs broilere at folk snakker slik. ;D

Blir spennende å se i hvilken utstrekning Tea Party bevegelsen forstår hva som skjer med et land når man implementerer manifestet i Atlas Shrugged, og om de forstår det i tide.
Forstår ikke helt hvorfor det behøver å være tre deler - riktignok er den opprinnelige boken på 1200 sider. Kanskje de ønsker å være veldig tro mot forlegget?
 

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Dette gleder jeg meg til!

Lenge siden jeg leste boken; får ta den frem igjen og friske opp.
Debatterer gjerne med.

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yasman skrev:
Dette gleder jeg meg til!

Lenge siden jeg leste boken; får ta den frem igjen og friske opp.
Er litt skeptisk, men spent :)

Dette husker du vel ? :) :


 

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"Atlas Shrugged" box office success stuns liberal Hollywood:

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/bill-kellys-truth-squad/2011/apr/21/atlas-shrugged-box-office-success-stuns-liberal-ho/
 

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Massa Shrugs!
Published on: Apr 16, 2011 3:22:01 PM CDT

Hola all. Massawyrm here.

This is why wealthy industrialists should stay the fuck out of the arts.

It is the year 2016. Gas costs $37 a gallon. The Dow has dropped to 4000. Railroads are the most efficient form of transportation once again. Congress has gotten its shit together and can pass legislation in mere hours and does so against the will of the wealthy monopolists who they are publicly dismantling. Money can’t buy influence. America hates innovation. And the suits in Washington concern themselves with the manufacturing sector rather than shuffling money around in the markets. Yes. ATLAS SHRUGGED is pure science fiction.

And it is a film impossible to separate from the politics surrounding it. Independently financed and distributed, the producers turned to the Right Wing media machine to push it rather than other conventional methods with good reason – it is shameless propaganda woefully out of touch with a world 55 years older than at the time of its source's writing.

Ultimately, its ideas are only going to connect with the already converted; it is a sermon that will only bring the choir back and do nothing to fill the church next Sunday. The producer’s goals to make a film to introduce a new generation to the philosophy of Ayn Rand have failed miserably. Instead, he’s created the world’s worst strawman argument, a film that – with the deletion of a few choice lines – would actually skewer the powers that be pushing this film. Sean Hannity recently called this the movie “liberal Hollywood doesn’t want you to see.” That’s because they’re liberals, Sean. They have hearts. And no one deserves this. No one except the people who somehow think they’re sticking it to the man by seeing it.

The film is a meandering mess that has no idea what story it is telling. While I understand the notion of wanting to turn a 1300+ page book into a trilogy, the only way to make that work is to make sure that first chapter has its own three act structure rather than a slaphappy dash of everything you’ll need to understand a second (as yet unmade) movie. Here, entire scenes exist only to drive the film’s dogmatic adherence to its own philosophy – even in the face of reason – and the already stunningly dull narrative gets bogged down in even more ludicrous conversations that will sound profound only to the dullest of minds. ATLAS SHRUGGED is relatively plotless – a seemingly endless string of scenes of maneuvering against an enemy that just doesn’t make any fucking sense at all.

The antagonists here don’t seem to have any rational motivation. They are cartoons – the type of people who you hear about in mindless political rants screamed by fringe dwelling, tin foil hat wearing lunatics. The villains are hand wringing bureaucrats and conspiratorial lobbyists hellbent on the diabolical dismantling of prosperity in America for the sake of…get this…not themselves, but the PEOPLE! DUN! DUN! DUNNNNNNNNN!

I certainly understand the desire to want to lash back at the more culturally prevalent philosophy of “we’re all in this together”, especially when your core philosophy is “Every man for himself.” But when a film comes along and paints liberals as sinister cigar smoking fat cats, feasting on opulent dinners and in all ways acting like Libertarian corporatists until the revelation that their dirty backroom politics are for the good of “the people” and “the nation” and they won’t seemingly be getting much real gain out of it at all…I have to wonder: what the fuck were they thinking? Who seriously believes this shit? The only people who think that there really are a group of people out there who are altruistically evil are only going to see this if their meds don’t knock them out too early and the home their kids abandoned them in has a shuttle service.

Seriously, who the fuck thought they were going to make money off a film selling tickets at senior citizen prices? No one under the age of fifty is even going to be able to understand the world presented here. It is a United States shut off from the rest of the world, in which nobody seems to use computers and Congress acts seemingly on the whims of a few people who want nothing more than to destroy wealth. It doesn’t make a lick of god damned sense. It is an elaborately constructed fantasy that falls apart the minute the audience begins asking *very simple* questions.

The film hinges on the idea that when a wealthy steel magnate designs a new type of steel that will facilitate heavier trains moving faster and a railroad baroness tries to use them to replace a crumbling, 100 year old line prone to train derailments, a group of bureaucrats decide that this is unfair competition to all the existing steel companies and must be stopped – for the good of the country. Never once does anyone mention that if this steel works, it will create an untold amount of jobs as every railroad in the country gets updated and countries around the world demand the importation of this new steel…because that would undermine the point of the whole movie. Because it is a notion from a time before the military industrial complex took hold, before government became tied into corporate welfare, before computers and cellular technology made globalism a reality. It is a horror film for people with more money than sense, painting them as heroes against a monolithic Robin Hood-style government that seeks nothing but to steal from them and give to the shiftless masses.

Lazy made-for-television production values mixed with community theater dialog and even worse performances make for a film no one will believe five years down the road was ever actually shown in theaters. Dyed in wool Randians will certainly be able to follow along with their copy of the home game, but the philosophy is so poorly presented that I’d be surprised if it won over a single convert. For a movie so dedicated to innovation and the exaltation of the creative, this is nothing but a sad imitation by the mediocre – a cinematic pissing on Ayn Rand’s grave as her ideals are distorted for cheap political points.

If you find a copy of this sitting around anywhere, do yourself a favor: set it on fire.

Until next time friends,

Massawyrm
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Atlas Shrugged
BY ROGER EBERT / April 14, 2011

I feel like my arm is all warmed up and I don’t have a game to pitch. I was primed to review "Atlas Shrugged." I figured it might provide a parable of Ayn Rand’s philosophy that I could discuss. For me, that philosophy reduces itself to: "I’m on board; pull up the lifeline." There are however people who take Ayn Rand even more seriously than comic-book fans take "Watchmen." I expect to receive learned and sarcastic lectures on the pathetic failings of my review.

And now I am faced with this movie, the most anticlimactic non-event since Geraldo Rivera broke into Al Capone’s vault. I suspect only someone very familiar with Rand’s 1957 novel could understand the film at all, and I doubt they will be happy with it. For the rest of us, it involves a series of business meetings in luxurious retro leather-and-brass board rooms and offices, and restaurants and bedrooms that look borrowed from a hotel no doubt known as the Robber Baron Arms.

During these meetings, everybody drinks. More wine is poured and sipped in this film than at a convention of oenophiliacs. There are conversations in English after which I sometimes found myself asking, "What did they just say?" The dialogue seems to have been ripped throbbing with passion from the pages of Investors’ Business Daily. Much of the excitement centers on the tensile strength of steel.

The story involves Dagny Taggart (Taylor Schilling), a young woman who controls a railroad company named Taggart Transcontinental (its motto: "Ocean to Ocean"). She is a fearless and visionary entrepreneur, who is determined to use a revolutionary new steel to repair her train tracks. Vast forces seem to conspire against her.

It’s a few years in the future. America has become a state in which mediocrity is the goal, and high-achieving individuals the enemy. Laws have been passed prohibiting companies from owning other companies. Dagny’s new steel, which is produced by her sometime lover, Hank Rearden (Grant Bowler), has been legislated against because it’s better than other steels. The Union of Railroad Engineers has decided it will not operate Dagny’s trains. Just to show you how bad things have become, a government minister announces "a tax will be applied to the state of Colorado, in order to equalize our national economy." So you see how governments and unions are the enemy of visionary entrepreneurs.

But you’re thinking, railroads? Yes, although airplanes exist in this future, trains are where it’s at. When I was 6, my Aunt Martha brought me to Chicago to attend the great Railroad Fair of 1948, at which the nation’s rail companies celebrated the wonders that were on the way. They didn’t quite foresee mass air transportation. "Atlas Shrugged" seems to buy into the fair’s glowing vision of the future of trains. Rarely, perhaps never, has television news covered the laying of new railroad track with the breathless urgency of the news channels shown in this movie.

So OK. Let’s say you know the novel, you agree with Ayn Rand, you’re an objectivist or a libertarian, and you’ve been waiting eagerly for this movie. Man, are you going to get a letdown. It’s not enough that a movie agree with you, in however an incoherent and murky fashion. It would help if it were like, you know, entertaining?

The movie is constructed of a few kinds of scenes: (1) People sipping their drinks in clubby surroundings and exchanging dialogue that sounds like corporate lingo; (2) railroads, and lots of ’em; (3) limousines driving through cities in ruin and arriving at ornate buildings; (4) city skylines; (5) the beauties of Colorado. There is also a love scene, which is shown not merely from the waist up but from the ears up. The man keeps his shirt on. This may be disappointing for libertarians, who I believe enjoy rumpy-pumpy as much as anyone.

Oh, and there is Wisconsin. Dagny and Hank ride blissfully in Taggart’s new high-speed train, and then Hank suggests they take a trip to Wisconsin, where the state’s policies caused the suppression of an engine that runs on the ozone in the air, or something (the film’s detailed explanation won’t clear this up). They decide to drive there. That’s when you’ll enjoy the beautiful landscape photography of the deserts of Wisconsin. My advice to the filmmakers: If you want to use a desert, why not just refer to Wisconsin as "New Mexico"?

"Atlas Shrugged" closes with a title card saying, "End of Part 1." Frequently throughout the film, characters repeat the phrase, "Who is John Galt?" Well they might ask. A man in black, always shot in shadow, is apparently John Galt. If you want to get a good look at him and find out why everybody is asking, I hope you can find out in Part 2. I don’t think you can hold out for Part 3.
 

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Igjen stemmer dette, dessværre, med de inntrykkene en sitter igjen med etter de publiserte klippene.

Blir overrasket om kritikken ikke beskriver filmen svært godt.
 
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There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
 
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Da var den sett.

Lite overraskende, så var det omtrent like spennende som en tilfeldig valgt episode av en middelmådig tv-serie, og det er for de som har lest boka.

For alle andre er det nok vesentlig mindre å få ut av dette.


Part2 er visst underveis, med nye skuespillere i alle roller.. ::)
 
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